> About web tests, is there no method that behaves differently in an
observable way when the permission isn't given?

If the device is connected then navigator.hid.getDevices() will return an
array containing a HIDDevice representing the device, but the API doesn't
provide a way to learn about disconnected devices. Currently we don't have
a way to simulate a connected device for WPT.

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 9:55 AM Mike West <[email protected]> wrote:

> LGTM3.
>
> -mike
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 11:44 AM Daniel Bratell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> LGTM2
>>
>> About web tests, is there no method that behaves differently in an
>> observable way when the permission isn't given?
>>
>> /Daniel
>> On 2022-02-09 10:27, Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>
>> LGTM1. Seems like a small and useful addition.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 9:42:23 AM UTC+1 François Beaufort wrote:
>>
>>> Contact emails
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> Explainer
>>>
>>> https://github.com/WICG/webhid/blob/main/EXPLAINER.md
>>>
>>> Specification
>>>
>>> https://wicg.github.io/webhid/#forget-method
>>>
>>> https://github.com/WICG/webhid/pull/84
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> The HIDDevice forget() method allows web developers to voluntarily
>>> revoke a permission to a HIDDevice that was granted by a user.
>>>
>>> Blink component
>>>
>>> Blink>HID
>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EHID>
>>>
>>> Motivation
>>>
>>> Some sites may not be interested in retaining long-term permissions to
>>> access a HID device. For example, for an educational web application used
>>> on a shared computer with many devices, a large number of accumulated
>>> user-generated permissions creates a poor user experience. In addition
>>> to user agent mitigations to avoid this problem, such as defaulting to a
>>> session scoped permission on the first request or expiring infrequently
>>> used permissions, it should be possible for the site itself to clean up
>>> user-generated permissions it is no longer interested in retaining.
>>>
>>> // Request a HID device.
>>>
>>> const [device] = await navigator.hid.requestDevice({ filters: [] });
>>>
>>> // Then later... revoke permission to the HID device.
>>>
>>> await device.forget();
>>>
>>> We expect similar functionality to Web Bluetooth, WebUSB, and the Serial
>>> API to be added.
>>>
>>> TAG review
>>>
>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/703
>>>
>>> TAG review status
>>>
>>> Pending
>>>
>>> Risks
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>
>>> This small addition to the HIDDevice object does not change the overall
>>> status of WebHID interoperability or compatibility.
>>>
>>> Signals from other implementations (Gecko, WebKit):
>>>
>>> Gecko: No Signal [1]
>>>
>>> WebKit: No Signal [1]
>>>
>>> Web / Framework developers: Positive
>>> https://github.com/WICG/webhid/issues/39
>>>
>>> Other signals: Google Meet folks have tried it and strongly support this
>>> addition.
>>>
>>> [1] Both Gecko and WebKit are unlikely to object to this feature
>>> specifically, but object to the overall WebHID API as a whole, hence it
>>> doesn't make sense to bug them with specific questions on this.
>>>
>>> Activation:
>>>
>>> This feature can't be polyfilled. It should be fairly trivial for
>>> developers to adopt this new feature.
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> No specific DevTools changes are required. This feature is treated like
>>> any other JS method.
>>>
>>> Note that exposing DevTools debugging support for device-access APIs
>>> (WebHID included) is discussed at
>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1142566.
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> No, because permission storage is implemented outside of Blink and so
>>> isn’t testable by web-platform-tests. Some tests that only verify the
>>> presence of interfaces and attributes will be available at
>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/webhid though.
>>>
>>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>>
>>> Yes, permission storage is implemented in //chrome.
>>>
>>> Tracking bug
>>>
>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1279822
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>>
>>> 100
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5723581527883776
>>>
>>> Links to previous Intent discussions
>>>
>>> Intent to prototype:
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/c2vCYr-0dqk/m/3nSeViRLCgAJ
>>>
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