Thanks! I think it's important to have the trial break in all versions, so the current default OT configuration you described SGTM
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 17:32 Jason Chase <cha...@chromium.org> wrote: > Currently, origin trials are time-bound, not version-bound. That is, trial > tokens contain an expiry date that applies regardless of the Chrome version. > > In this case, the break in availability would be done by remote update > that disables the trial. We can target that update to specific Chrome > versions. So, it is possible to leave the trial enabled on older versions, > while newer versions have the break enforced, and then have the trial > re-enabled on all versions. > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:09 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> If the current status quo is that OTs are exposed on older milestones >> during the time they are enabled (e.g. for users that haven't updated their >> browser), then from my perspective, the break in the OT's availability >> should not change that. (I think that's the case ATM, but not sure). >> If it isn't the case, changing it merits a broader discussion. >> >> On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 11:14:13 AM UTC+2 Elad Alon wrote: >> >>> After the break. If code could work not only for m96-m99, but rather for >>> m92-m99, during the calendar time of m96-m99, that would be nice. But it's >>> not critical. I am just thinking that the OT process is probably intended >>> to look more at time than actual milestones, so possibly we could tweak the >>> rules to reflect that? But this might be a larger discussion to be had >>> elsewhere, and not specifically to this feature. Up to you! >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 8:39:52 AM UTC+1 yoav...@chromium.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> LGTM to break the experiment 2021-11-08 to 2021-11-28 (I'm guessing >>>> it's to late to aim for the 1st, apologies for not responding earlier). >>>> Also LGTM to experiment for 4 milestones after that, till M99, >>>> inclusive. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 11:38:49 PM UTC+3 Elad Alon wrote: >>>> >>>>> If 2021-11-01 is too short-notice by now, we could also do 2021-08 to >>>>> 2021-11-28. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 4:08:38 PM UTC+2 Elad Alon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, Yoav, for this suggestion about resetting the clock. We >>>>>> would like to now do just that, pausing the experiment 2021-11-01 to >>>>>> 2021-11-21, and restarting it again on 2021-11-22. We would like to >>>>>> experiment for 4 milestones (96 to 99, inclusive). However, if it's >>>>>> possible to also have the experiment active for older milestones during >>>>>> this time, that would be nice, too. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> Can you clarify what you mean by "during this time"? During the break, >>>> or after it? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 6:44:10 AM UTC+2 yoav...@chromium.org >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> LGTM to continue experimenting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note that it might be worthwhile to stop the experiment at some >>>>>>> point, as that could "reset the clock" in terms of burn-in risk, and >>>>>>> enable >>>>>>> an overall longer experimentation period. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 3:41:14 PM UTC+2 Elad Alon wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Yoav. >>>>>>>> Yes, I intend to formally reach out to Mozilla and Apple soon. >>>>>>>> Agreed about strong positive signals from developers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 10:56:26 AM UTC+2 >>>>>>>> yoav...@chromium.org wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 11:42 PM 'Elad Alon' via blink-dev < >>>>>>>>> blin...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Contact emailselad...@chromium.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Explainer >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/capture-handle/blob/main/README.md >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Specificationhttps://wicg.github.io/capture-handle/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We introduce a mechanism that allows an application to opt-in to >>>>>>>>>> exposing certain information to other applications which are >>>>>>>>>> video-capturing it. This allows collaboration between capturing and >>>>>>>>>> captured applications. For example, a VC application that's >>>>>>>>>> video-capturing >>>>>>>>>> a tab where a presentation application lives, could expose >>>>>>>>>> user-facing >>>>>>>>>> controls in the VC tab for navigating the presentation in the >>>>>>>>>> captured tab. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blink componentBlink>GetUserMedia>Tab >>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EGetUserMedia%3ETab> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> TAG reviewhttps://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/645 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> TAG review statusPending >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Risks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gecko: No signal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WebKit: No signal >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have we reached out? https://bit.ly/blink-signals is not required >>>>>>>>> for an experiment, but may be good to reach out nevertheless. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Web developers: No signals >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd say >>>>>>>>> https://discourse.wicg.io/t/proposal-capture-handle-bootstrap-app-collaboration-when-screensharing/5354/ >>>>>>>>> gives you a strong positive signal.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Reason this experiment is being extended >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Enthusiastic support for the feature: >>>>>>>>>> https://discourse.wicg.io/t/proposal-capture-handle-bootstrap-app-collaboration-when-screensharing/5354 >>>>>>>>>> Efforts to build useful features on top of this new API are still >>>>>>>>>> ongoing. >>>>>>>>>> Request extension m95-m97 (three months). >>>>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No DevTools support is needed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms >>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Supported on all Desktop platforms. Not supported on any Mobile >>>>>>>>>> platform. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>>>>>>>> ?No >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Flag nameCaptureHandle >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1200910 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Launch bug >>>>>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1200907 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones >>>>>>>>>> OriginTrial desktop first 92 >>>>>>>>>> OriginTrial desktop last 94Request extension m95-m97 (three >>>>>>>>>> months). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/4854125411958784 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to prototype: >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/yLTykllpNmI >>>>>>>>>> Intent to Experiment: >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/RKONugfoGwM/m/mpFizHPxAwAJ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.chromestatus.com/>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAMO6jDOMkgjL_HUMohx4hk7tbC__M53aX3NEiGxeTPfw8nJUHw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAMO6jDOMkgjL_HUMohx4hk7tbC__M53aX3NEiGxeTPfw8nJUHw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/ecba514a-77be-4f6a-b3a2-faeb56ecc7f2n%40chromium.org >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/ecba514a-77be-4f6a-b3a2-faeb56ecc7f2n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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