LGTM3.

-mike

On Thu 9. Sep 2021 at 22:22 Daniel Bratell <[email protected]> wrote:

> LGTM2 to the plan and comments outlined by Chris.
>
> /Daniel
> On 2021-09-09 22:18, Chris Harrelson wrote:
>
> Hi Glen,
>
> Thanks for your patience while we (collectively - your team, API owners,
> and others) worked through a response to your request.
>
> The API owners met today and discussed this request to extend the Origin
> Trial. Here is some new data I got:
>
> * The team showed evidence of recent further engagement with partners and
> getting as soon as possible to the v2 you mentioned. The Web Payments team
> also signed up to help accelerate that.
> * There is new evidence (to me) of the potential & importance of this API
> for the web that I hadn't considered. This would really help the web
> platform be more useful, IMO.
>
> I'm still concerned about the length of the trial and its impact on
> burn-in and other risks of a long OT. But I'm now ok with approving this
> request.
>
> Finally, we also concluded that because of the length of the Origin Trial,
> it's outside the bounds of approval via one LGTM, and requires three. So
> please wait for two more LGTMs.
>
> LGTM1 to extend this trial to M96.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 9:32 PM Glen Robertson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Blink Owners,
>>
>> Have you had a chance to consider this yet? We are quickly approaching
>> the end date of the current OT (2021-09-14).
>>
>> On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 at 14:56, Glen Robertson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Would it be possible for us to extend by 2 milestones to M95 (inclusive)
>>> instead? We believe we can get a new v2 API (which will be a significant
>>> breaking change) implemented in time for M96; M94 is already in beta and
>>> M95 will not ship on CrOS, so the earliest we can get new code out to
>>> developers is in M96 anyway. This would make our total OT timeline M88 to
>>> M95 (8 milestones total), which is within the maximum OT time limit of 8
>>> milestones Alex mentioned above (in fact shorter total time due to the
>>> changing milestone period). We would very much like to avoid the disruption
>>> to developers of having the OT turned off and this functionality being
>>> entirely unavailable during the intervening period before the new OT starts.
>>>
>>> We understand your concern about an extended OT risking burn-in, but
>>> this is a complex API for developers to start using, as they have to create
>>> a product and payment flow around it. Usage of the API is still low — a few
>>> hundred calls per day total for all methods (excluding
>>> getDigitalGoodsService, which is used for feature detection even when
>>> the API is otherwise unavailable).
>>>
>>> Shipping a subset of the API now wouldn't help because we are proposing
>>> breaking changes to enough of the API that it probably isn't useful to ship
>>> the rest. Also, we are proposing a breaking change in the behaviour of the
>>> feature detection function that must be called before any other calls, so
>>> it would be mildly risky to ship that immediately.
>>>
>>> I have made a draft version of the proposed v2 API publicly available
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16r8ZM_vTMNroB_JkoyKF9jdgiMNZXc2z7OfnsPYp8l4/edit#>
>>> (though it is still being reviewed). It will be a significant breaking
>>> change to the API.
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Glen
>>>
>>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 06:33, Chris Harrelson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The API owners met to discuss this intent today (Chris, Yoav, Alex,
>>>> Mike). We're glad to see you are still pursuing the API and responding to
>>>> feedback with the v2 API.
>>>>
>>>> However, 9 milestones is very long, much longer than we are typically
>>>> comfortable with, and within the range where there starts to be substantial
>>>> risk of burn-in. That combined with the v2 design being neither publicly
>>>> available nor implemented yet, leads us to conclude that we can't support
>>>> extending the current Origin Trial, since there is also no
>>>> defined experimental justification for doing so.
>>>>
>>>> You can of course come back and ask for a new Origin Trial once v2 is
>>>> public and implemented.
>>>>
>>>> We also discussed two other points:
>>>> * There is the option of shipping a subset now, but we were not sure if
>>>> there is a useful and stable subset that could be shipped.
>>>> * If v2 were implemented now and you wished to transition the Origin
>>>> Trial "smoothly" to the new API, that would have been reasonable to
>>>> consider. Reason being the purpose of an Origin Trial is to experimentally
>>>> fit an API to purpose, and a change to v2 is a strong signal that there was
>>>> experimental feedback justifying it. Further, a breaking v2 API would
>>>> reduce burn-in risk.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Chris, on behalf of the API owners
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 2:17 AM Glen Robertson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Blink Owners,
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to extend the DGAPI OT further. Requesting an extension
>>>>> to M96 (inclusive).
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: that is 9 milestones total (8 on CrOS), some of which are the
>>>>> new shorter milestones. Also CrOS won't ship M95.
>>>>>
>>>>> We now have an updated API design <http://go/dgapi2> in internal
>>>>> review (sorry, Google only for now). I plan to update the public explainer
>>>>> once the design is internally approved, then start on implementation of a
>>>>> revised "v2" API. I expect implementation to take another milestone at
>>>>> least, but like before we can't make promises about getting the 
>>>>> engineering
>>>>> part done within a tight timeline. When that is ready, we will want to
>>>>> start an OT on that revised API.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also M94 (the existing post-end milestone) has already branched - do
>>>>> we need to merge something to ensure DGAPI OT is not turned off for M94?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Glen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 10:19, Matt Giuca <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Alex and Yoav.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 05:24, Alex Russell <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SGTM too; LGTM!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 3:54:37 AM UTC-7 Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 10:35 AM Matt Giuca <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the explanation, Yoav.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, we are talking about 6 milestones total (note: 5 milestones
>>>>>>>>> on Chrome OS, which is where a lot of our customers are targeting, 
>>>>>>>>> since we
>>>>>>>>> missed the first milestone there).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As said above, we are anticipating a V2 origin trial at some point
>>>>>>>>> in the future. We think we'll have a pretty solid design by the end 
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> quarter (that's roughly corresponding to the start of M94) but we 
>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>> can't promise that V2 will be implemented by then. When we get to 
>>>>>>>>> M94, I
>>>>>>>>> think it is likely that we'll need to further extend the existing 
>>>>>>>>> origin
>>>>>>>>> trial, but we should have a much better picture of the work required 
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> then. Another possibility is that we ship all or part of the current 
>>>>>>>>> API to
>>>>>>>>> general availability (if it is determined that the new changes are
>>>>>>>>> additions, rather than changes, to the existing API).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ideally, at that point you would have well-documented learnings
>>>>>>>> from the OT that you could use to justify either a decision to ship 
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> parts of the API, or change it towards a second OT.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this is vague, but I am trying to keep our options open
>>>>>>>>> and make sure that we aren't making promises we can't keep. My point 
>>>>>>>>> above
>>>>>>>>> stands, that I don't want to set hard engineering deadlines which, if 
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> don't meet them, will result in the disappearance of the API for our
>>>>>>>>> customers. We are not trying to keep this API in origin trial 
>>>>>>>>> forever, but
>>>>>>>>> we need time to work towards a solution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The above SGTM!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 15:30, Yoav Weiss <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In that case, we're talking about 6 milestones all in all? That
>>>>>>>>>> sounds perfectly reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:43 AM Glen Robertson <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I made a mistake in my original email in this thread: we
>>>>>>>>>>> actually delayed the start of the OT so I had the milestones wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>> Corrected milestones follow:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Experimental timeline*
>>>>>>>>>>> - M88(Android)/M89(Desktop): First experiment milestone
>>>>>>>>>>> - M90: Original final experiment milestone
>>>>>>>>>>> - M93: Extended final experiment milestone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 23:19, Aer Berkopec <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021, 3:44 AM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The main goals for the duration restrictions that Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned is to avoid cases where Origin Trials are being used as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "soft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> launch" mechanism and to avoid prematurely baking in the feature 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Significant changes to the API shape (as the ones you allude
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to with the V2 API) would provide some assurances against bake 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in, and from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my perspective would "restart the clock".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, that doesn't mean that breaking the API every X
>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestones would enable y'all to have it in OT forevermore. We 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see that the OT is being used to provide us with meaningful 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that's the reason Alex asked for a summary of lessons 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> learned, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well as a plan to eventually ship this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:37 AM Matt Giuca <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the notes from your meeting. I think we can create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a summary of the proposed design changes (however, note that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's somewhat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undecided at this stage, what specific changes will need to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made). I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to block the extension of the origin trial on having 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a design
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal, since that could jeopardize customers' ability to use 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the API.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the 8-milestone run include the planned future "V2 API"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> origin trial, (i.e. if we run this for another 3 milestones, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have 2 milestones left to do a V2 origin trial)? Or do you mean 8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestones without making changes to the API.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the latter would be pretty reasonable, but as I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure I've said before, I'm not too comfortable having a hard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deadline on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having to ship a new API or losing it. Having hard deadlines for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features, especially one this complex, generally results in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rushed and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buggy experiences. If we, say, get to M95 and have a working 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for V2, but discover a bug at the last minute, I want to be able 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitation to punt the release for an additional milestone (I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to feel compelled to push it out the door because of an arbitrary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8-milestone limit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We definitely don't want you or other feature teams to rush to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ship features that are not ready. What I'd generally recommend is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a rough plan for exiting the experimentation phase, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to come
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to the API owners if e.g. last minute extensions are needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll note that I raised this issue for this specific API in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general discussion with Blink API Owners in November 2020 (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-api-owners-discuss/c/_VsWsXMlezY/m/jTjGda60CwAJ>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Relevant quotes from myself from that email:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Until this work is done, we're not comfortable shipping this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> API. We think backwards-incompatible changes may be required. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But we want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get it into the hands of developers before then. An origin 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial lets us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do that, but it's got a soft time limit (3 milestones), after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll have to apply for an extension. Maybe that's fine, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific questions we'll still want answered. But it seems a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little unfit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for purpose, because we aren't using the OT to answer those 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're just extending it to keep things working while we do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind the scenes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If API owners are happy with us ... repeatedly extending the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> origin trial, without specific experimental questions, until we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the internal research / spec work required to ship, then I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think we can do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without origin keys. My proposal was essentially an attempt to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formalize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that behaviour, rather than having to apply for all of these 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exemptions and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensions when they come up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I didn't get a response to that email at the time. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> context was that we were asking for a formal "origin keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rQFoxVEOHBAYGz0DL0eSUur-DWN90o42OzFtEmcAO-Q/edit>"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system, and in that meeting, I was told that it wouldn't be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because origin trials are suitable for that purpose. Per my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final paragraph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there, it *may* not be that origin trials are suitable for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this purpose, if in practice API owners are going to block 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> origin trial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be clear, we aren't intending to extend this indefinitely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am hoping we can have this API shipped some time this year. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flagging that we can't guarantee that we'll have the necessary 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by a specific milestone, and I don't want to be hard-bound to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes by a specific date.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 05:34, Alex Russell <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Met today at API OWNERS to discuss. I don't think folks are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *necessarily* opposed to extending this, but a few things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jump out:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - 8 milestones as at the far end of how long we'd like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    any OT to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - Given that, it would be helpful to summarize both a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    plan for what the new API will look like as well as lessons 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learned to date
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that some of that is captured in the DGAPI bugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked, but it would help if there were a summary document that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> described
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the developer feedback to date, the changes you'll be making to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the API to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compensate, and the plan for (hopefully) validating the new API 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers expect quickly, then launching or sunsetting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:30:38 AM UTC-7 Glen Robertson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected], [email protected],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/digital-goods/blob/master/explainer.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Design docs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/digital-goods/blob/master/explainer.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jbt2Mzt-xg1cWVlFScBQsoX_pE8Kg1gYpulxUSV8FM0/edit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An API for querying and managing digital products to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facilitate in-app purchases from web applications, in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Payment Request API (which is used to make the actual 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchases). The API
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be linked to a digital distribution service connected to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via the user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agent. In Chromium, this is specifically a web API wrapper 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android Play Billing API.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink component
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink>Payments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPayments>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search tags
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> payments <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:payments>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billing <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:billing>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/571
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review status
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In progress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Risks Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Similar to Payment Request: this API is used to talk to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific store backends, and so its usage is tailored to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store. The reason it's a proposed web standard is so that the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which is specific to one store) is portable across browsers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gecko: No signal (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/349).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awaiting feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebKit: No signal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web developers: Positive (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://discourse.wicg.io/t/proposal-web-payments-digital-product-management-api/4350
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ergonomics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Used in tandem with the Payment Request API.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goals for experimentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - General API design. Determine whether developers need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access more data that would be exposed through the Play 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Billing API but is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not exposed through our web API.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Specifically, we would like to know whether the API is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suitable for abstracting over other non-Play stores. While 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment with the current implementation won't tell us this, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up real-world clients and we can then try their sites on other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Experimental timeline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - M87 (2020-11-17): Experiment begins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - M90 (2021-04-13): Original experiment end date
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - M93 (2021-08-31): Extended experiment end date
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reason this experiment is being extended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An origin trial ran from M87 to M90 and found some areas of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer friction and new features needed (see bugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> labeled DGAPI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=label%3ADGAPI>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't yet had time to fix all the issues and update the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> API. We are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning to update the API and run a next phase of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment with a v2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> API soon. We would like to avoid stopping the experiment in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phases to avoid unnecessarily disrupting current users of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> API while we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on the next iteration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ongoing technical constraints
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, Android and Chrome OS only (the two platforms where we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have Play Store integration).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flag name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://crbug.com/1061503
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Launch bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://crbug.com/1017947
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
-mike

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