LGTM2. This has been approved via internal security and privacy review, has
gotten substantial developer feedback during OT, and serves a useful
purpose.

I would ask y'all to pay attention to the TAG in case they provide
substantive feedback in the near future. But given that the review was
initially filed a year ago, and the conversation stalled in January, I
don't think we need to block on their input.

-mike


On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 9:19 PM Alex Russell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> LGTM1
>
> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 5:49:12 PM UTC+1 Stephen McGruer wrote:
>
>> > and one which impacted
>> <https://twitter.com/yoavweiss/status/1382050433632456711> me as a user
>>
>> Oof! Yes, we'd like to help figure out a way to make *that* not happen...
>>
>> > What would be the timelines for [the commitment to see through the WPT
>> test suite]?
>>
>> My team will be working on test automation for SPC in Q4 2021. As the
>> ex-lead of WPT in Chromium, I am quite insistent that we get it done :D.
>>
>>  > Any feedback from the Origin Trial?
>>
>> During the Origin Trial we did iterate on the API shape significantly,
>> but that more came from discussions in the working group than Origin Trial
>> participant feedback (who are themselves also in the working group, so some
>> overlap).
>>
>> From our Origin Trial partners, we mostly heard that the overall
>> experience is working for them and that they're really excited to be able
>> to build lower-friction authentication solutions in the payments space!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 10:26, Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for working on this! This seems like an important problem to
>>> solve. (and one which impacted
>>> <https://twitter.com/yoavweiss/status/1382050433632456711> me as a user)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 4:04 PM Stephen Mcgruer <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Contact [email protected], [email protected],
>>>> [email protected], [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Explainerhttps://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation
>>>>
>>>> Specificationhttps://w3c.github.io/secure-payment-confirmation/
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> Secure payment confirmation augments the payment authentication
>>>> experience on the web with the help of WebAuthn. The feature adds a new
>>>> 'payment' extension to WebAuthn, which allows a relying party such as a
>>>> bank to create a PublicKeyCredential that can be queried by any merchant
>>>> origin as part of an online checkout via the Payment Request API using the
>>>> 'secure-payment-confirmation payment' method.
>>>>
>>>> Blink componentBlink>Payments
>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPayments>
>>>>
>>>> TAG reviewhttps://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/544
>>>>
>>>> TAG review statusPending
>>>>
>>>> *Supported on all platforms?*
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> SPC is launching on MacOS and Windows only initially, as they are
>>>> platforms that have built-in authenticators and which payment partners have
>>>> noted as important targets.
>>>>
>>>> Android has browser-level support for SPC, but is excluded from the
>>>> launch due to the lack of Discoverable Credentials currently. We will add
>>>> Android once the platform supports that.
>>>>
>>>> Risks
>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> This feature adds a WebAuthn extension and PaymentRequest payment
>>>> method type, so the interop risk is that other browsers do not implement
>>>> these types. The feature is detectable (though it could be easier[0]), so
>>>> it should be possible for Web Developers to determine if SPC is enabled for
>>>> a given user agent visiting their site. There is a risk that the feature
>>>> will evolve away from the PaymentRequest API[1], which would then require a
>>>> deprecation of the current API entry-point. It is worth noting that
>>>> deprecations for payment are often easier than for the general web, as
>>>> there are far, far fewer payment developers and websites that accept
>>>> payments are almost always kept up to date (or their payment integrations
>>>> might break!). [0]:
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/issues/81#issuecomment-885046226
>>>> [1]: https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/issues/65
>>>>
>>>> Gecko: No signal (
>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/570
>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/admin/features/launch/5702310124584960/5?intent=1>)
>>>> Historically (>1 year old) positive signal from informal conversation in
>>>> W3C Payment Handler meetings. However Firefox have since not been involved
>>>> in the API development.
>>>>
>>>> WebKit: No signal (
>>>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2021-August/031956.html)
>>>>
>>>> Web developers: Positive (
>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2021Aug/0005.html)
>>>> Support and involvement in API development from multiple web developers and
>>>> payment industry partners. Both Stripe and AirBnB have publicly stated that
>>>> they have either completed or are in the process of
>>>> prototyping/experimenting with SPC
>>>>
>>>> Debuggability
>>>>
>>>> Existing devtools debugging features should cover SPC (e.g.
>>>> breakpoints, console, etc)
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>> ?Partially
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/secure-payment-confirmation?label=master&label=experimental&aligned
>>>>
>>>> The WPT test suite is only partially complete and needs to be extended,
>>>> but this first requires building out test automation machinery and
>>>> content_shell support. The team is committed to this post initial launch.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What would be the timelines for that commitment?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Requires code in //chrome?True
>>>>
>>>> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/1124927
>>>>
>>>> Launch bug
>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1236570#
>>>>
>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>> Ship: M95. Note that this is directly after the end of the Origin
>>>> Trial, so we are still trying to determine whether we should do the 'week
>>>> off' approach or apply for a no-skip transition. For the latter option, I
>>>> think we may meet the bar. We've significantly changed the API in both M93
>>>> and M94 during the origin trial, and so M95 for example is not compatible
>>>> with someone using code from M93.
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5702310124584960
>>>>
>>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to prototype:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/topic/blink-dev/myUR5gyd5Js/discussion
>>>> Intent to Experiment:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/6Dd00NJ-td8
>>>>
>>>
>>> Any feedback from the Origin Trial?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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