That's fair too; if you are comfortable with your OS of choice, then there isn't a point to learn another just to play a game.
On 7/2/20, Ian McNamara <[email protected]> wrote: > I see yore point in that regard Justin and I would not learn a screen reader > just to play one game. A lot of things that would make me decide weather to > fund this is if it’s lightly to have Mac support. I am a full time Mac user > and only use windows for work and to sometimes play games or convert books > etc. I would be less lightly to fund this if Mac is not going to be > considered or at least IOS. > > Best wishes. > > Ian Mcnamara > > >> On 2 Jul 2020, at 19:26, Ian McNamara via groups.io >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Like Scott I do not have any say on the projects outcome etc as it’s not >> something I am sure weather I would fund myself as these types of games >> are not usually my chosen types. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Ian Mcnamara >> >>> On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:26, Jack Falejjczyk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> They did say specifically that part of their accessibility budget >>> would involve testing with premium screen readers. So if you want JAWS >>> support, it kind of does have to be funded first. I worry that JAWS as >>> a consumer product will fizzle out sooner rather than later. Once >>> Windows 10 Arm hits, JAWS is done for. And FS is applying JAWS, or >>> versions of JAWS, to non-consumer settings such as >>> shopping/informational keyoscs. So do keep in mind that there is legit >>> reason (not personal beef with the product on my part) to believe that >>> JAWS for individuals is has a good chance of fizzling out whether >>> Windows 10 Arm comes to take it away or not, so that may or may not be >>> a factor in whether or not they decide to devote time and resources >>> into making the game fullproof with JAWS. To be clear, again, I do not >>> intend to start a screen reader fewd over this, but just presenting >>> the reality for what it is. Risks and challenges as any Kickstarter >>> campaign will no doubt mention. >>> Have a good day. >>> >>> On 7/2/20, Scott Chesworth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Well assuming your point was support for "usual screen readers", then >>>> yeah, it kinda is. NVDA has wider adoption than JAWS nowadays (see >>>> recent webAIM surveys). >>>> >>>> I think it's also worth keeping in mind at times like these that the >>>> JAWS ULA precludes a demo version of JAWS being used to develop or >>>> test for accessibility, which creates a chicken and egg situation. >>>> Supporting JAWS is an expensive endeavour because of the terms of its >>>> ULA. If none of the users who want JAWS support step up to fund it (at >>>> least in part), how does that expense get covered? >>>> >>>> I'm honestly not attempting to shame you into funding the project >>>> Justin, I've got no stake in the outcome either way, just pointing out >>>> how the land lies. >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 7/2/20, Justin Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> That's not really the point though. >>>>> >>>>> On 7/2/20, Ian McNamara <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> NVDA is as good as JAWS in a lot of ways now, it’s recognised as a >>>>>> fully >>>>>> fledged screen reader. I am an accessibility tester and NVDA is one >>>>>> of >>>>>> the >>>>>> screen readers I am required to test with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian Mcnamara >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2 Jul 2020, at 17:21, Justin Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm out then. I wish them luck, but until they can support the usual >>>>>>> screen-readers I cannot, in good conscience, support them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Justin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/2/20, Robert Kingett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> You have to use NVDA. Not JAWS, for now. They told me through FB >>>>>>>> Messenger >>>>>>>> that JAWS was giving them huge amounts of problems. Use NVDA for >>>>>>>> now, >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> JAWS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> (254) 624-9155 >>>>>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> (254) 624-9155 >>>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -- Justin M. Jones, M.A. [email protected] (254) 624-9155 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#122602): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/122602 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/75248850/21656 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/1071380848/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
