On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:45:31AM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: > I just did my first contactless nfc payment with a MasterCard. It worked > very well and was quite delightful - definitely want to be doing more of > these in future. I think people will come to expect this kind of > no-friction payment experience and Bitcoin will need to match it, so here > are some notes on what's involved. > > There are two aspects that can be implemented independently of each other: > > 1) The physical/NFC layer. > 2) The risk analysis layer. > > A contactless payment needs two things to work: one is a VERY fast, low > latency communication between payment device (phone in our case) and > terminal. I couldn't find actual latency specs yet but it felt like using > an Oyster card, which aims for <400msec.
What matters more than the latency is the *variability*. I would spec this system for no less than 200ms, and no more than 250ms to be 'standard'. > ..... so I bet we'd need to optimise the bootup process of the Android > wallet app. Right now it does slow things like deserialising giant protocol > buffers and is just generally not optimised for startup time. Loading the > wallet, reading the payment request over NFC, checking the cert signatures, > making the trust decision, calculating a transaction, signing it, sending > it back to the recipient all in under 400 msec would be a tough (but fun) > programming challenge. Some of the steps can be parallelised and modern > phones are mostly multicore. If you have to invoke a java/ios/etc app you are never going to be consistent, however if you have a GPL linux kernel module (like I proposed for my still hypothetical 7coin), you should have no trouble meeting those specs. I'd like to be able to load my java app, tell it to put $50 on my 'instant'/nfc wallet, and then let the kernel module spend out the $50 whenever the phone gets swiped by somehting. If you do this right, every device has a well-known payment address for it's 'instant' wallet, and it should be trivial for merchants to just look at the blockchain and confirm the instant wallet has a sufficient balance to cover the transaction. One more comment... having a bitcoin payment application 'check certs' seems like a great way to ensure that Visa maintains their market share. If it's my phone, and I press the hardware payment button, and I only put $50 on it, I frankly don't care if there's a cert or not. The last thing I want is a 'certificate validation error' when I'm trying to buy a soda. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Troy Benjegerdes 'da hozer' ho...@hozed.org 7 elements earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul grid.coop Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel, nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development