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On Sunday, May 1st, 2022 at 11:01, Chris Belcher via bitcoin-dev 
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:


> Hello ZmnSCPxj,
>
> This is an intended feature. I'm thinking that the same fidelity bond
> can be used to running a JoinMarket maker as well as a Teleport
> (Coinswap) maker.
>
> I don't believe it's abusable. It would be a problem if the same
> fidelity bond is used by two makers in the same application, but
> JoinMarket takers are already coded to check for this, and Teleport
> takers will soon as well. Using the same bond across different
> applications is fine.
>
> Best,
> CB
>

Hi Chris, Zmn, list,
I've noodled about this a few times in the past (especially when trying to 
figure out an LSAG style ring sig based FB for privacy, but that does not seem 
workable), and I can't decide the right perspective on it.

A user sacrifices X amount of time-value-of-money (henceforth TVOM) by 
committing in Joinmarket with FB1. He then uses the same FB1 in Teleport, let's 
say. If he gets benefit Y from using FB1 in Joinmarket, and benefit Z in 
Teleport, then presumably he'll only do it if (probabilistically) he thinks Y+Z 
> X.

But as an assessor of FB1 in Joinmarket, I don't know if it's also being used 
for Teleport, and more importantly, if it's being used somewhere else I'm not 
even aware of. Now I'm not an economist I admit, so I might not be intuit-ing 
this situation right, but it fees to me like the right answer is "It's fine for 
a closed system, but not an open one." (i.e. if the set of possible usages is 
not something that all participants have fixed in advance, then there is an 
effective Sybilling problem, like I'm, as an assessor, thinking that sacrificed 
value 100 is there, whereas actually it's only 15, or whatever.)

As I mentioned in 
https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/993#issuecomment-1110784059
 , I did wonder about domain separation tags because of this, and as I vaguely 
alluded to there, I'm really not sure about it.

If it was me I'd want to include domain separation via part of the signed 
message, since I don't see how it hurts? For scenarios where reuse is fine, 
reuse can still happen.

Cheers,
waxwing/AdamISZ
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