Good morning Laolu, Matt, and list,
> > * With `SIGHASH_NOINPUT` we can make the C-side signature > > `SIGHASH_NOINPUT|SIGHASH_SINGLE` and allow B to re-sign the B-side > > signature for a higher-fee version of HTLC-Timeout (assuming my cached > > understanding of `SIGHASH_NOINPUT` still holds). > > no_input isn't needed. With simply single+anyone can pay, then B can attach > a new input+output pair to increase the fees on their HTLC redemption > transaction. As you mention, they now enter into a race against this > malicious ndoe to bump up their fees in order to win over the other party. Right, right, that works as well. > > If the malicious node uses a non-RBF signalled transaction to sweep their > HTLC, then we enter into another level of race, but this time on the mempool > propagation level. However, if there exists a relay path to a miner running > full RBF, then B's higher fee rate spend will win over. Hmm. So basically: * B has no mempool, because it wants to reduce its costs and etc. * C broadcasts a non-RBF claim tx with low fee before A->B locktime (L+1). * B does not notice this tx because: 1. The tx is too low fee to be put in a block. 2. B has no mempool so it cannot see the tx being propagated over the P2P network. * B tries to broadcast higher-fee HTLC-timeout, but fails because it cannot replace a non-RBF tx. * After L+1, C contacts the miners off-band and offers fee payment by other means. It seems to me that, if my cached understanding that `<0> OP_CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY` is sufficient to require RBF-flagging, then adding that to the hashlock branch (2 witness bytes, 0.5 weight) would be a pretty low-weight mitigation against this attack. So I think the combination below gives us good size: * The HTLC-Timeout signature from C is flagged with `OP_SINGLE|OP_ANYONECANPAY`. * Normally, the HTLC-Timeout still deducts the fee from the value of the UTXO being spent. * However, if B notices that the L+1 timeout is approaching, it can fee-bump HTLC-Timeout with some onchain funds, recreating its own signature but reusing the (still valid) C signature. * The hashlock branch in this case includes `<0> OP_CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY`, preventing C from broadcasting a low-fee claim tx. This has the advantages: * B does not need a mempool still and can run in `blocksonly`. * The normal path is still the same as current behavior, we "only" add a new path where if the L+1 timeout is approaching we fee-bump the HTLC-Timeout. * Costs are pretty low: * No need for extra RBF carve-out txo. * Just two additional witness bytes in the hashlock branch. * No mempool rule changes needed, can be done with the P2P network of today. * Probably still resilient even with future changes in mempool rules, as long as typical RBF behaviors still remain. Is my understanding correct? Regards, ZmnSCPxj > > -- Laolu > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:13 PM ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev > <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > > Good morning Matt, and list, > > > > > RBF Pinning HTLC Transactions (aka "Oh, wait, I can steal funds, how, > > >now?") > > > ============================= > > > > > > You'll note that in the discussion of RBF pinning we were pretty > > >broad, and that that discussion seems to in fact cover > > > our HTLC outputs, at least when spent via (3) or (4). It does, and in > > >fact this is a pretty severe issue in today's > > > lightning protocol [2]. A lightning counterparty (C, who received the > > >HTLC from B, who received it from A) today could, > > > if B broadcasts the commitment transaction, spend an HTLC using the > > >preimage with a low-fee, RBF-disabled transaction. > > > After a few blocks, A could claim the HTLC from B via the timeout > > >mechanism, and then after a few days, C could get the > > > HTLC-claiming transaction mined via some out-of-band agreement with a > > >small miner. This leaves B short the HTLC value. > > > > My (cached) understanding is that, since RBF is signalled using > > `nSequence`, any `OP_CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY` also automatically imposes the > > requirement "must be RBF-enabled", including `<0> OP_CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY`. > > Adding that clause (2 bytes in witness if my math is correct) to the > > hashlock branch may be sufficient to prevent C from making an RBF-disabled > > transaction. > > > > But then you mention out-of-band agreements with miners, which basically > > means the transaction might not be in the mempool at all, in which case the > > vulnerability is not really about RBF or relay, but sheer economics. > > > > The payment is A->B->C, and the HTLC A->B must have a larger timeout (L + > > 1) than the HTLC B->C (L), in abstract non-block units. > > The vulnerability you are describing means that the current time must now > > be L + 1 or greater ("A could claim the HTLC from B via the timeout > > mechanism", meaning the A->B HTLC has timed out already). > > > > If so, then the B->C transaction has already timed out in the past and can > > be claimed in two ways, either via B timeout branch or C hashlock branch. > > This sets up a game where B and C bid to miners to get their version of > > reality committed onchain. > > (We can neglect out-of-band agreements here; miners have the incentive to > > publicly leak such agreements so that other potential bidders can offer > > even higher fees for their versions of that transaction.) > > > > Before L+1, C has no incentive to bid, since placing any bid at all will > > leak the preimage, which B can then turn around and use to spend from A, > > and A and C cannot steal from B. > > > > Thus, B should ensure that *before* L+1, the HTLC-Timeout has been > > committed onchain, which outright prevents this bidding war from even > > starting. > > > > The issue then is that B is using a pre-signed HTLC-timeout, which is > > needed since it is its commitment tx that was broadcast. > > This prevents B from RBF-ing the HTLC-Timeout transaction. > > > > So what is needed is to allow B to add fees to HTLC-Timeout: > > > > * We can add an RBF carve-out output to HTLC-Timeout, at the cost of more > > blockspace. > > * With `SIGHASH_NOINPUT` we can make the C-side signature > > `SIGHASH_NOINPUT|SIGHASH_SINGLE` and allow B to re-sign the B-side > > signature for a higher-fee version of HTLC-Timeout (assuming my cached > > understanding of `SIGHASH_NOINPUT` still holds). > > > > With this, B can exponentially increase the fee as L+1 approaches. > > If B can get HTLC-Timeout confirmed before L+1, then C cannot steal the > > HTLC value at all, since the UTXO it could steal from has already been > > spent. > > > > In particular, it does not seem to me that it is necessary to change the > > hashlock-branch transaction of C at all, since this mechanism is enough to > > sidestep the issue (as I understand it). > > But it does point to a need to make HTLC-Timeout (and possibly > > symmetrically, HTLC-Success) also fee-bumpable. > > > > Note as well that this does not require a mempool: B can run in > > `blocksonly` mode and as each block comes in from L to L+1, if HTLC-Timeout > > is not confirmed, feebump HTLC-Timeout. > > In particular, HTLC-Timeout comes into play only if B broadcast its own > > commitment transaction, and B *should* be aware that it did so --- there is > > still no need for mempool monitoring here. > > > > Now, of course this only delays the war. > > Let us now consider what C can do to ensure that the bidding war will > > happen eventually. > > > > * C can bribe a miner to prevent HTLC-Timeout from confirming between L and > > L+1. > > * Or in other words, this is a censorship attack. > > * The Bitcoin censorship-resistance model is that censored transactions > > can be fee-bumped, which attracts non-censoring miners to try their luck at > > mining and evict the censoring miner. > > * Thus, letting B bump the fee on HTLC-Timeout is precisely the > > mechanism we need. > > * This sets up a bidding war between C requesting miners to censor, > > vs. B requesting miners to confirm, but that only sets the stage for a > > second bidding war later between C and B, thus C is at a disadvantage: it > > has to bribe miners to censor continuously from L to L+1 *and* additional > > bribe miners to confirm its transaction after L+1, whereas B can offer its > > bribe as being something that miners can claim now without waiting after > > L+1. > > > > The issue of course is the additional output that bloats the UTXO set and > > requires another transaction to claim later. > > And if we have `SIGHASH_NOINPUT`, it seems to me that > > Decker-Russell-Osuntokun sidesteps this issue as well, as any timed-out > > HTLC can be claimed with a fee-bumpable transaction directly without > > RBF-carve-out. > > (As well, it seems to me that, if both nodes support doing so, a Poon-Dryja > > channel can be upgraded, without onchain activity, to a > > Decker-Russell-Osuntokun channel: sign a transaction spending the funding > > tx to a txo that has been set up as Decker-Russell-Osuntokun, do not > > broadcast that transaction, then revoke the latest Poon-Dryja commitment > > transactions, then switch the mechanism over to Decker-Russell-Osuntokun; > > you still need to monitor for previous Poon-Dryja commitment transactions, > > but HTLCs now sidestep the issue under discussion here.) > > > > Regards, > > ZmnSCPxj > > _______________________________________________ > > bitcoin-dev mailing list > > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing list bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev