im posting this on behalf of my brother Randy who will follow up with a more 
detailed post but yesterday around 2:30  we saw what we believe was a band 
tailed gull on the breakwall in kingsville  harbour so all you lake erie 
birders  keep your eyes open 
kingsville  harbour  can be reached off of division road south drive to the end 
of the road make a left   and drive a few blocks till u see the harbour bird 
was out on the break wall
good luck 
good birding 
robert horvath 

                
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Subject: [Ontbirds]Possible BAND-TAILED GULL at Kingsville Harbour
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Yesterday at about 2:20 p.m. I found what clearly
appeared to be a candidate for an adult Band-tailed
Gull on the breakwall at Kingsville harbour. The bird
was at the front of the breakwall, in perfect profile
facing to our left with none of the scores of other
gulls obscuring it. It was about the size of a Lesser
Black-backed Gull but with much darker wings and
mantle and rather long-looking legs that were quite
bright yellow. I immediately thought "Band-tailed
Gull," although I couldn't remember perfectly what
that species looks like. It was patently not a LBBG or
"runt" Great Black-backed, nor could it have been one
of the other gulls with prominent yellow legs because
of its small size. The one character that threw me,
however, was its bill: apparently all-black, or at
least quite blackish, with what looked like just a
touch of yellow on the very tip. I immediately got my
brother over to look at it, and then he set up his
scope and we continued to study it carefully and
discuss it for about half an hour. At one point the
sun peeked through, and my brother remarked that he
thought the tip of the bill looked red. We always
carry the Sibley field guide with us, but it does not
have Band-tailed Gull, and I had lost my "travel copy"
of the National Geographic field guide, which does
have Band-tailed, so I decided we should just try to
stamp the image of the bird indelibly in our minds
before trying to get closer and perhaps photographing
it. Unfortunately, just as we were about to drive to
where we could do just that, the Pelee Island Ferry
came in and spooked almost all the gulls. After
everything settled down, we had to start all over and
try to relocate the bird, but another half-hour of
trying was unsuccessful. I suspect it flew off and
landed on the water behind the breakwall.

We had to hurry home, and I didn't know if I should
even post this as a "possible" B-T Gull until we could
see the portrait in the National Geo. When we did, lo
and behold, a winter adult is supposed to have a
smudgy  dark gray hood. Our bird had very crisp, dark
gray or blackish streaks limited to the front and
sides of the face and on the crown; the nape appeared
unstreaked. This led me to think that maybe the bird
could not be a Band-tailed after all (even if a mostly
dark bill could still be accounted for). I had not
slept for about 40 hours so I went to bed.

Around midnight it suddenly occurred to me that since
the Band-tailed Gull is a South American bird, adults
of this species should be moving into definitive
alternate plumage rather than basic, and that the hood
should be disappearing. This could perhaps explain why
our bird looked as it did. At that point I decided I
would post this sighting this morning as soon as I
could make it to the library. I'm sure it will hang
around and it will be very easy to pick out -- the
most beautiful gull I've ever seen, whatever it is.

To summarize: this bird looks in every way to be an
adult Band-tailed Gull, having all the right
dimensions, proportions, and plumage features so far
as I can tell, except for an almost entirely dark
bill. If anyone relocates it, I would appreciate a
phone call to myself at 944-3495 or, better yet, my
brother on his cell at 965-1821. Unfortunately, the
earliest we can try to look for it again might be
tomorrow.

Kingsville Harbour can be accessed by taking Wigle
Street south from Hwy 20/Main Street and following the
curve to the right, then hanging a left. You can also
take Division Road (Hwy 29) south to the end and then
turning left and heading east for a few blocks.

Randy Horvath, Windsor
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As a follow-up to my dads post you can view a couple of photos of the egret 
by clicking on the links below.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/britishcanuk/cattle1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/britishcanuk/cattle2.jpg

Cheers,

Russ Jones


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Subject: [Ontbirds]Cattle egret at Big Creek Marsh. Still there.


> Birders,
>           The cattle egret remained at the Big Creek Marsh all day today.
> Appologies for ommiting directions on original post.
>
> Big Creek Marsh is located West of Amherstburg along County Road 20. From 
> A;burg proceed West along County Rd 20 approx 3 miles to Creek Road, if 
> you reach the Holiday Beech turnoff you have gone to far.
>
> Good birdin'.
>
> Len Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello birders,
> The Cattle Egret reported by Rob Horvath remains in and around Big Creek 
> Marsh, observed daily. This morning it can be found on the North side of 
> the bridge in the grasses adjacent to Creek Road.
>
> Good luck. Len Jones
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