This may not be the right forum for this discussion but it raises a lot of
questions with respect to atlasing.  Presumably this should be discussed
through the atlas website but (now that it's started) how common is early
southward migration for passerines?  I've found singing Magnolia's in
Flamborough and a Black-throated Green in north Huron County in marginal
habitat.  How do you tell the difference between northbound and southbound
migrants and legitimate southern breeders?  If there is any hormonal control
of southward migration is it unexpected that they would still be singing on
their way south?  Are these really southbound or just "stalled" migrants
still in a "singing" state of hormonal balance?

Paul D. Smith
Flamborough

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From: Theo Hofmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:15 PM
To: message Ontbirds
Subject: Re: late or early???? Tennessee Warbler - Toronto (fwd)



> I had a similar problem on Wednesday, 2 July with a Yellow-bellied
> Flycatcher in a forest south of Mt. Albert. It was singing vigorously, but
> clearly too far south and in habitat not suitable for breeding. Again,
> was this a very early migrant or a non-breeding male who never made it
> to where it ought to have been?
>
> Theo
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> On Fri, 4 Jul 2003, Mark Cranford wrote:
>
> > >From the technically challenged Paul Prior
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> > What was presumeably an early returning Tennessee warbler was in full
song at
> > about 8am this morning at the Toronto and Region Conservation office at
> > Shoreham Drive (east edge of the Black Creek ravine, just south of the
> > road). I
> > recall hearing singing Tennessees in the Toronto region in mid-July last
> > year ...
> > but 4th of July seems a little too early!!! Perhaps this individual came
> > through so late in June (heading north) that it simply gave up and
decided
> > to get
> > an early start on a leisurely trip south. A similar reasoning may
explain the
> > seeming glut of American redstarts that are hanging out in locations all
over
> > Toronto!
> >
> > Paul Prior
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