hi Martin,

thanks for hint!! i wasn't aware of 'tools::package_dependencies()', adding a bit of graph sorcery i get the result i was looking for:

repos <- BiocManager::repositories()[c(1,5)]
repos
                                     BioCsoft
"https://bioconductor.org/packages/3.11/bioc";
                                         CRAN
                   "https://cran.rstudio.com";

db <- available.packages(repos=repos)

deps <- tools::package_dependencies("GenomicScores", db, recursive=TRUE)[[1]]

deps <- tools::package_dependencies(c("GenomicScores", deps), db)

g <- graph::graphNEL(nodes=names(deps), edgeL=deps, edgemode="directed")

RBGL::sp.between(g, start="GenomicScores", finish="Matrix", detail=TRUE)[[1]]$path_detail
[1] "GenomicScores"        "rtracklayer"          "GenomicAlignments"
[4] "SummarizedExperiment" "Matrix"

so, it was the rtracklayer dependency that leads to Matrix through GenomeAlignments and SummarizedExperiment.

maybe the BioC package 'pkgDepTools' should be deprecated if its functionality is part of 'tools' and it does not even work as fast and correct as 'tools'.

cheers,

robert.


On 2/6/20 2:51 PM, Martin Morgan wrote:
The first thing is to get the correct repositories

   repos = BiocManager::repositories()

(maybe trim the experiment and annotation repos from this). I also tried 
pkgDepTools::makeDepGraph() but it took so long that I moved on... it has an 
option 'keep.builtin' which might include Matrix.

There is also BiocPkgTools::buildPkgDependencyDataFrame() & friends, but this 
seems to build dependencies within a single repository...

The building block for a solution is `tools::package_dependencies()`, and I can confirm 
that "Matrix" _is_ a dependency

   db = available.packages(repos = BiocManager::repositories())
   revdeps <- tools::package_dependencies("GenomicScores", db, recursive = TRUE)
   "Matrix" %in% revdeps[[1]]
   ## [1] TRUE

so I'll leave the clever recursive or graph-based algorithm up to you, to 
report back to the mailing list?

For what it's worth I think the last time this came up Martin Maechler pointed 
to a function in base R (probably the tools package) that implements this, 
too...?

Martin Morgan

On 2/6/20, 6:40 AM, "Bioc-devel on behalf of Robert Castelo" 
<bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org on behalf of robert.cast...@upf.edu> wrote:

     hi,
when i load the package 'GenomicScores' in a clean session i see thorugh
     the 'sessionInfo()' that the package 'Matrix' is listed under "loaded
     via a namespace (and not attached)".
i'd like to know what is the dependency that 'GenomicsScores' has that
     ends up requiring the package 'Matrix'.
i've tried using the package 'pkgDepTools' without success, because the
     dependency graph does not list any path from 'GenomicScores' to 'Matrix'.
i've been manually browsing the Bioc website and, unless i've overlooked
     something, the only association with 'Matrix' i could find is that
     'S4Vectors' and 'GenomicRanges', which are required by 'GenomicScores',
     list 'Matrix' in the 'Suggests' field, but my understanding is that
     those packages are not required and should not be loaded.
so, is there any way in which i can figure out what of the
     'GenomicScores' dependencies leads to loading the package 'Matrix'?
here are the depends, import and suggests fields from 'GenomicScores': Depends: R (>= 3.5), S4Vectors (>= 0.7.21), GenomicRanges, methods,
              BiocGenerics (>= 0.13.8)
     Imports: utils, XML, Biobase, IRanges (>= 2.3.23), Biostrings,
              BSgenome, GenomeInfoDb, AnnotationHub, shiny, shinyjs,
        DT, shinycustomloader, rtracklayer, data.table, shinythemes
     Suggests: BiocStyle, knitr, rmarkdown, BSgenome.Hsapiens.UCSC.hg19,
              phastCons100way.UCSC.hg19, MafDb.1Kgenomes.phase1.hs37d5,
              SNPlocs.Hsapiens.dbSNP144.GRCh37, VariantAnnotation,
              TxDb.Hsapiens.UCSC.hg19.knownGene, gwascat, RColorBrewer
and here a session information in a fresh R-devel session after loading
     the package 'GenomicScores':
R Under development (unstable) (2020-01-29 r77745)
     Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit)
     Running under: CentOS Linux 7 (Core)
Matrix products: default
     BLAS:   /opt/R/R-devel/lib64/R/lib/libRblas.so
     LAPACK: /opt/R/R-devel/lib64/R/lib/libRlapack.so
locale:
       [1] LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF8       LC_NUMERIC=C
       [3] LC_TIME=en_US.UTF8        LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF8
       [5] LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF8    LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF8
       [7] LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF8       LC_NAME=C
       [9] LC_ADDRESS=C              LC_TELEPHONE=C
     [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C
attached base packages:
     [1] parallel  stats4    stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets
     [8] methods   base
other attached packages:
     [1] GenomicScores_1.11.4 GenomicRanges_1.39.2 GenomeInfoDb_1.23.10
     [4] IRanges_2.21.3       S4Vectors_0.25.12    BiocGenerics_0.33.0
     [7] colorout_1.2-2
loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
       [1] Rcpp_1.0.3                    lattice_0.20-38
       [3] shinycustomloader_0.9.0       Rsamtools_2.3.3
       [5] Biostrings_2.55.4             assertthat_0.2.1
       [7] digest_0.6.23                 mime_0.9
       [9] BiocFileCache_1.11.4          R6_2.4.1
     [11] RSQLite_2.2.0                 httr_1.4.1
     [13] pillar_1.4.3                  zlibbioc_1.33.1
     [15] rlang_0.4.4                   curl_4.3
     [17] data.table_1.12.8             blob_1.2.1
     [19] DT_0.12                       Matrix_1.2-18
     [21] shinythemes_1.1.2             shinyjs_1.1
     [23] BiocParallel_1.21.2           AnnotationHub_2.19.7
     [25] htmlwidgets_1.5.1             RCurl_1.98-1.1
     [27] bit_1.1-15.1                  shiny_1.4.0
     [29] DelayedArray_0.13.3           compiler_4.0.0
     [31] httpuv_1.5.2                  rtracklayer_1.47.0
     [33] pkgconfig_2.0.3               htmltools_0.4.0
     [35] tidyselect_1.0.0              SummarizedExperiment_1.17.1
     [37] tibble_2.1.3                  GenomeInfoDbData_1.2.2
     [39] interactiveDisplayBase_1.25.0 matrixStats_0.55.0
     [41] XML_3.99-0.3                  crayon_1.3.4
     [43] dplyr_0.8.4                   dbplyr_1.4.2
     [45] later_1.0.0                   GenomicAlignments_1.23.1
     [47] bitops_1.0-6                  rappdirs_0.3.1
     [49] grid_4.0.0                    xtable_1.8-4
     [51] DBI_1.1.0                     magrittr_1.5
     [53] XVector_0.27.0                promises_1.1.0
     [55] vctrs_0.2.2                   tools_4.0.0
     [57] bit64_0.9-7                   BSgenome_1.55.3
     [59] Biobase_2.47.2                glue_1.3.1
     [61] purrr_0.3.3                   BiocVersion_3.11.1
     [63] fastmap_1.0.1                 yaml_2.2.1
     [65] AnnotationDbi_1.49.1          BiocManager_1.30.10
     [67] memoise_1.1.0
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