Do we really need a centralized bug-tracker or would it be best to leave
that to the individual packages, e.g., using the github tracker via the
github-svn-bridge? Many are probably already doing that.

Michael



On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Cook, Malcolm <m...@stowers.org> wrote:

> Martin,
>
> I'm sure you're watching this thread.....
>
> Can we take it as some "feedback from other developers" that you requested
> way back in
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/bioc-devel/2011-October/002854.html when I
> wished for similar....
>
> In any case,
>
> +1,
>
> Malcolm
>
>  >-----Original Message-----
>  >From: bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:
> bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Keith Hughitt
>  >Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 12:53 PM
>  >To: Nicolas Delhomme
>  >Cc: bioc-devel@r-project.org
>  >Subject: Re: [Bioc-devel] Bug tracker for Bioconductor?
>  >
>  >Hi Nico,
>  >
>  >It's a shame that the effort did not gain more traction in 2004. I wonder
>  >if things would look differently now as the community has grown
>  >significantly larger?
>  >
>  >It does seem like there are a relatively small number of bug-related
>  >questions on the mailing lists. I wonder though if this could be in part
>  >because some people may be hesitant to ask their questions on such a
> large
>  >list, and instead end up either forgoing the question or contacting the
>  >software authors directly?
>  >
>  >Also, even if there is only a trickle of bug and feature-request related
>  >posts to the mailing list across time, without any way to keep track of
> how
>  >many of those issues are open/unresolved, it's hard to gauge whether the
>  >project really is low-maintenance, or if there are actually a large
> number
>  >of issues that have just been unanswered or forgotten.
>  >
>  >There would definitely be a burden associated with setting up a more
>  >sophisticated system for dealing with bugs. I am just not convinced that
>  >the burden would be too great, or that it is not worth taking on :)
>  >
>  >Cheers,
>  >Keith
>  >
>  >
>  >On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Nicolas Delhomme
>  ><nicolas.delho...@umu.se>wrote:
>  >
>  >> Hej Keith!
>  >>
>  >> I agree that this would be useful. For having been very close to the
> 2004
>  >> attempt - a then colleague of mine set up a solution similar to what
> you
>  >> describe - I can tell you that the main reason for it dying out was
> that
>  >> despite advertising it, it never got widely used. I don’t know what the
>  >> reasons for that really were, but from experience I know that many
> fellow
>  >> bioinformaticians find such tools more time-consuming than  handling
> bug
>  >> tracking through emails. And after all very few packages require
> frequent
>  >> support, as can be devised from questions to the mailing list, so I do
>  >> understand their point.
>  >>
>  >> Cheers,
>  >>
>  >> Nico
>  >>
>  >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>  >> Nicolas Delhomme
>  >>
>  >> The Street Lab
>  >> Department of Plant Physiology
>  >> Umeå Plant Science Center
>  >>
>  >> Tel: +46 90 786 5478
>  >> Email: nicolas.delho...@plantphys.umu.se
>  >> SLU - Umeå universitet
>  >> Umeå S-901 87 Sweden
>  >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>  >>
>  >> On 20 May 2014, at 15:04, Keith Hughitt <keith.hugh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> > Hello all,
>  >> >
>  >> > I was wondering if there had been any progress towards adopting a bug
>  >> > tracking system for Bioconductor?
>  >> >
>  >> > It has been discussed at least a couple times in the past, e.g.:
>  >> >
>  >> >    -
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/bioc-devel/2011-October/002844.html
>  >> >    -
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/bioc-devel/2004-October/000040.html
>  >> >
>  >> > But as far as I can tell, no such system has been set up and the
> current
>  >> > approach is to report issues to the mailing list.
>  >> >
>  >> > The main reasons I see for adopting such a system would be:
>  >> >
>  >> > 1. Centralized location for reporting and tracking bugs and feature
>  >> > requests; this also makes it more straight-forward to see if anyone
> else
>  >> > has already reported a specific issue.
>  >> >
>  >> > 2. Ability to associate a given issue with specific a project
>  >> >
>  >> > 3. Ability to assign priorities to various issues and assign
> developers
>  >> to
>  >> > work on them.
>  >> >
>  >> > 4. Easy to track changes made to a given release.
>  >> >
>  >> > 5. Separate usage and development discussion (mailing list) for
>  >> > issue-related discussion.
>  >> >
>  >> > Something like trac <http://trac.edgewall.org/> would be sufficient
> to
>  >> > cover all of the above issues, although something with closer
> integration
>  >> > to the codebase such as Github <https://github.com/> or
>  >> > Bitbucket<https://bitbucket.org/>might provide some additional
>  >> > benefits. Of course, migrating to a separate
>  >> > VCS not a trivial matter and would itself merit a separate
> discussion.
>  >> >
>  >> > A couple examples of issue trackers working well for R projects:
>  >> >
>  >> >    https://github.com/hadley/ggplot2/issues
>  >> >    https://github.com/yihui/knitr
>  >> >
>  >> > Thank you all for your excellent work on Bioconductor! It is a really
>  >> > amazing resource.
>  >> >
>  >> > Regards,
>  >> > Keith
>  >> >
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