On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 03:43:23PM +0000, Marcus Kool wrote: ! I participated in the survey and think it is good to also have a ! public discussion.
I tried to, but got the impression that the target audience is rather commercial providers of infrastructure services, like domain registrars and dns service providers. Not somebody like me who just runs a cloud infrastructure for their own purposes. ! Users of Open Source projects are responsible themselves for what ! they use. You want to use a free image editor? fine, go ahead! Exactly, that is the idea! And I love it - it allows me to NOT depend on service providers, to run my infrastructure in the way I like it, and to be in control. I don't like it when people want to tell me what is best for me to eat, or what is best for me to buy, or what is best for me to run my computers. I don't like it when people think they know better than me what is good for me. And anyway, what qualification do these people have? But this is exactly what will disappear, and the road map is clear. FOSS doesn't matter anymore. Already, a bunch of the FOSS software you get cannot run on Unix (Berkeley). See for example that "Dart" compiler. If you happen to develop Web applications, you may likely need it. But it can run only on Windows/ Linux/Applestuff. It is open source, but it is incredible big, and even if you manage to port it to Unix, Google will not support this. Instead they will flood you with continuous changes, which you then have to continuously integrate in your fork. It is an impossible task. As big as software packages nowadays have become, there are now other means to make proprietary software - it is no longer necessary to protect or hide the source. As I said, the road map is clear: the mass of people, the so-called "consumers" will only have the choice between the three big brands, and then these control the software - either because it is already proprietary, or because it is just too big to maintain on your own. And this includes the developers, because for development stuff the same applies. Or maybe you need a forum to discuss with your co-developers - discourse forum for instance, is open source, but runs only in a container on a specific brand of linux. FOSS is no longer the point, the market converges by itself (due to reasons I could elaborate on). So those are the consumers, Tha other part is, logically, the providers. These are more or less what was until recently called the FAANG. An oligarchy. Then why do we need regulation? The really big players are not bothered by regulations. Afaik Mastercard was never punished for distributing their customer records (including mine) on the darknet (search 'priceless specials' for details). Too-big-to-fail can basically do what they want, privacy laws or not. But there are actors in between. Corps or NGOs or whatever entities who are not as big to influence the game, but big enough to go their own way. Big enough to do some investment and make things possible which might not be in line with the road map. And that is where the regulations come in - to keep these entities in the reins. Because, for ordinary people, regulations are not necessary. Already now, if you want to get affordable prices at the supermarket, you have to buy a smartphone from one of only two software providers - and none of them gives you root access. (Or more cleariy, if someone doesn't get it yet: you DON'T OWN the thing, you merely pay for it). So, at some point not so far in the future, I imagine, running your own computer will simply become prohibited. Just like, you can be perfectly able to build a helicopter, but you will not be allowed to fly it. So why should one be allowed to run their own computer on the internet, and potentially pose a risk to the other users? ! If a government wants to impose rules for special/critical software that cost ! time or money for these open source projects, then the government must be as ! restrictive as possible with regulation, must pay for all costs to comply to ! these rules to the open source projects, and must have patience for ! implementation of compliance. Note that the government does not have to Hey! What money is it that governments are so willing to spend? Right, it's taxpayer money. It's YOUR money. Catch-22. cheerio, have fun PMc -- Visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
