This is the problem:

https://lists.isc.org/mailman/htdig/bind-users/2024-April/108469.html

Not a new problem.

https://lists.isc.org/mailman/htdig/bind-users/2018-May/100229.html


On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 12:19 PM Ondřej Surý <ond...@isc.org> wrote:

> Crosscheck this with DNSSEC Debugger from Verisign:
>
> dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com
> <https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/extranet.aro.army.mil>
> <https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/extranet.aro.army.mil>
> <https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/extranet.aro.army.mil>
>
>
> [image: red.png] No DS records found for akamai.csd.disa.mil in the
> csd.disa.mil zone
> [image: yellow.png] All Queries to dns3.akamai.csd.disa.mil for
> akamai.csd.disa.mil/DNSKEY timed out or failed
> [image: yellow.png] All Queries to dns1.akamai.csd.disa.mil for
> akamai.csd.disa.mil/DNSKEY timed out or failed
> [image: yellow.png] All Queries to dns2.akamai.csd.disa.mil for
> akamai.csd.disa.mil/DNSKEY timed out or failed
> [image: yellow.png] All Queries to dns4.akamai.csd.disa.mil for
> akamai.csd.disa.mil/DNSKEY timed out or failed
> [image: red.png] Failed to get DNSKEY RR set for zone akamai.csd.disa.mil
> [image: yellow.png] All Queries to dns2.akamai.csd.disa.mil for
> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil/A timed out or failed
> [image: yellow.png] All Queries to dns4.akamai.csd.disa.mil for
> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil/A timed out or failed
> [image: yellow.png] All Queries to dns3.akamai.csd.disa.mil for
> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil/A timed out or failed
> [image: yellow.png] All Queries to dns1.akamai.csd.disa.mil for
> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil/A timed out or failed
> [image: red.png] No response from akamai.csd.disa.mil nameservers
>
> --
> Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
> ond...@isc.org
>
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> feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.
>
> On 17. 12. 2024, at 21:16, Ondřej Surý <ond...@isc.org> wrote:
>
> disa.mil servers are timing out on me over IPv6:
>
> $ dig IN NS gcds.disa.mil. @DNS1.DISA.MIL.
> ;; communications error to 2608:125:0:1811:1001:9012:f00:20#53: timed out
> ;; communications error to 2608:125:0:1811:1001:9012:f00:20#53: timed out
> ;; communications error to 2608:125:0:1811:1001:9012:f00:20#53: timed out
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.21.3-1+0~20241211.133+debian12~1.gbp5b5fe5-Debian <<>> IN NS
> gcds.disa.mil. @DNS1.DISA.MIL.
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55426
> ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 7
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;gcds.disa.mil.                 IN      NS
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> gcds.disa.mil.          12699   IN      NS      dns1.disa.mil.
> gcds.disa.mil.          12699   IN      NS      dns3.disa.mil.
> gcds.disa.mil.          12699   IN      NS      dns5.disa.mil.
> gcds.disa.mil.          12699   IN      NS      dns2.disa.mil.
> gcds.disa.mil.          12699   IN      NS      dns4.disa.mil.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> dns1.disa.mil.          7151    IN      AAAA
>  2608:125:0:1811:1001:9012:f00:20
> dns2.disa.mil.          7151    IN      AAAA
>  2608:102:0:182d:1001:9012:c00:20
> dns3.disa.mil.          7151    IN      AAAA
>  2608:145:0:180b:1001:9012:d00:20
> dns4.disa.mil.          6608    IN      AAAA
>  2608:c182:0:1012:1001:9012:1400:20
> dns4.disa.mil.          6608    IN      AAAA
>  2608:c182::1001:9012:1600:20
> dns5.disa.mil.          7151    IN      AAAA
>  2608:4122:0:1012:1001:9012:1400:20
>
> ;; Query time: 252 msec
> ;; SERVER: 152.229.110.232#53(DNS1.DISA.MIL.) (UDP)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Dec 17 21:09:53 CET 2024
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 305
>
> And given there's so many delegations and so many redirections, the result
> is inevitable...
>
> There's at least 4 queries that need to be done against disa.mil servers
> and if they all end up with timeout over IPv6, the whole query times out
> because it will run out of the time.
>
> gdcs.disa.mil IN NS
> apps.gdcs.disa.mil IN NS
> cds.disa.mil IN NS
> e1008.d.akamaiedge.akamai.csd.disa.mil. IN A
>
> Ondřej
> --
> Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
> ond...@isc.org
>
> My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not
> feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.
>
> On 17. 12. 2024, at 20:56, Clark, Roger <roc...@wm.edu> wrote:
>
> I have a user who is unsuccessfully trying to resolve ‘
> extranet.aro.army.mil’ using our BIND resolvers.  The query is failing
> with a 'shut down hung fetch while resolving’ error message with some
> DNSSEC warning as well.  The name resolves without issue querying other
> external resolvers and also is successful using dig +trace.  I did notice
> there was an issue with an error produced by one of the names in the CNAMe
> chain ( https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/4797 ).
>
> Do I have something misconfigured or is there something wrong on the
> authoritative side?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Roger
>
> Query:
> # dig extranet.aro.army.mil @localhost
> ;; communications error to 127.0.0.1#53: timed out
> ;; communications error to 127.0.0.1#53: timed out
> ;; communications error to 127.0.0.1#53: timed out
> ;; communications error to 127.0.0.1#53: timed out
> ;; communications error to 127.0.0.1#53: timed out
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.18.32 <<>> extranet.aro.army.mil @localhost
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; no servers could be reached
>
> Logs:
> 17-Dec-2024 16:05:59.558 client @0x7fae4b99e230 127.0.0.1#55089 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query: extranet.aro.army.mil IN A +E(0)K
> (127.0.0.1)
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:00.518   validating gcds.disa.mil/SOA: got insecure
> response; parent indicates it should be secure
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:00.518     validating gcds.disa.mil/SOA: got insecure
> response; parent indicates it should be secure
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:00.518 validating apps.gcds.disa.mil/NS: no valid
> signature found
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:00.594   validating apps.gcds.disa.mil/SOA: no valid
> signature found
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:00.594   validating
> Q3C76IBKTMFUF8PMSHSSCOPM8LOKJKK2.apps.gcds.disa.mil/NSEC3: no valid
> signature found
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:00.642   validating apps.gcds.disa.mil/SOA: no valid
> signature found
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:00.642   validating
> LP2F0U0VHJI70GSV9KTM3KC7HQDJKD9R.apps.gcds.disa.mil/NSEC3: no valid
> signature found
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:00.678 validating aro.army.mil.apps.gcds.disa.mil/CNAME:
> no valid signature found
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:01.558 client @0x7fae4b97e220 127.0.0.1#39052 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query: extranet.aro.army.mil IN A +E(0)K
> (127.0.0.1)
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:03.562 client @0x7fae4a551240 127.0.0.1#35234 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query: extranet.aro.army.mil IN A +E(0)K
> (127.0.0.1)
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:05.566 client @0x7fae4a54f260 127.0.0.1#58021 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query: extranet.aro.army.mil IN A +E(0)K
> (127.0.0.1)
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:07.566 client @0x7fae4a547290 127.0.0.1#52253 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query: extranet.aro.army.mil IN A +E(0)K
> (127.0.0.1)
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:12.678 shut down hung fetch while resolving '
> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil/A'
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:12.678 client @0x7fae4b99e230 127.0.0.1#55089 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query failed (operation canceled) for
> extranet.aro.army.mil/IN/A at query.c:7877
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:12.678 client @0x7fae4b97e220 127.0.0.1#39052 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query failed (operation canceled) for
> extranet.aro.army.mil/IN/A at query.c:7877
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:12.678 client @0x7fae4a551240 127.0.0.1#35234 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query failed (operation canceled) for
> extranet.aro.army.mil/IN/A at query.c:7877
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:12.678 client @0x7fae4a54f260 127.0.0.1#58021 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query failed (operation canceled) for
> extranet.aro.army.mil/IN/A at query.c:7877
> 17-Dec-2024 16:06:12.678 client @0x7fae4a547290 127.0.0.1#52253 (
> extranet.aro.army.mil): query failed (operation canceled) for
> extranet.aro.army.mil/IN/A at query.c:7877
>
> Trace:
>
> # dig +trace extranet.aro.army.mil @localhost
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.18.32 <<>> +trace extranet.aro.army.mil @localhost
> ;; global options: +cmd
> . 518092 IN NS b.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS g.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS f.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS k.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS a.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS d.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS c.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS m.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS e.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS i.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS h.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS j.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN NS l.root-servers.net.
> . 518092 IN RRSIG NS 8 0 518400 20241230050000 20241217040000 61050 .
> rswM6OY8ylCNnmkfbUrdnNcTyPMuraztXrBbrrfTOO1M3vp9gCea+qj+
> FKEPxb/M7EwJYthquLPfOX+5nkV2ROBFwXrTBYS4Zg6zLC40lNwPFqdY
> 9X2cYpfYW1ljr1LuW9bEyBYwCfZB8g7eg+v0nMyrX+uDLH2mneiwJhiZ
> orJTZqVegiHMlX5jNe+btW7uJdAD+05MkI8CP8uD4ZElZ4ghjAG77aZB
> DLD9Ra+SE4j/1ECrkWEwP543tlYq0mmLIDP3TDObTGFMy3qjjItQtM83
> NmCWD8OAFNbl28AaYMDREpMryZDaxPXNEYiAF3JDfTyM1otJqd7C9kjm 9gM/qg==
> ;; Received 1137 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(localhost) in 0 ms
>
> mil. 172800 IN NS con1.nipr.mil.
> mil. 172800 IN NS pac2.nipr.mil.
> mil. 172800 IN NS pac1.nipr.mil.
> mil. 172800 IN NS eur2.nipr.mil.
> mil. 172800 IN NS eur1.nipr.mil.
> mil. 172800 IN NS con2.nipr.mil.
> mil. 86400 IN DS 63500 8 2
> 3BAA83867103D6604A124282063F295E1B15C87CC13CB875A42F5754 A912EBE0
> mil. 86400 IN RRSIG DS 8 1 86400 20241230050000 20241217040000 61050 .
> X2VVY9CekNpZhFq3x4ZIz8gI9nsCicqgJHzi1kEaRAW4hXzZGR+hAMNq
> 58680WjNluI/zaWt6eOpfkt+8XNEMJfc5cK5dmnOCs6jv9Blkv4moe6O
> 3Mr5F5Dm37m13Jw8pBIMJb2ylk1pzOsDQbWKjS+Ak3xXJH357YopmxVO
> fXQ6Zmu6VCmbiA9rhtI5fX2wuwzhcI5gAn4ARCTFVDo5XM8JKwc3vHs9
> 9dtGZhJ2UZ9ryZk+ulxGabZ3czSWjof93zn9GHfKezUFeGOqEkdO3op/
> 9Oift8tpAM+IDdZFaFgI3VU+SJpwX+5BgavHILio8YtB5wXZ1z1Wfp3r iZw/kw==
> ;; Received 802 bytes from 192.36.148.17#53(i.root-servers.net) in 44 ms
>
> ARMY.MIL. 21600 IN NS NS02.ARMY.MIL.
> ARMY.MIL. 21600 IN NS NS01.ARMY.MIL.
> ARMY.MIL. 21600 IN NS NS03.ARMY.MIL.
> ARMY.MIL. 10800 IN DS 34552 8 1 2DFA605AE37365DC018249BC6E7FEB3EF55BAF85
> ARMY.MIL. 10800 IN DS 34552 8 2
> 77BF656C5361FF501D81AC4F7DAB185B5F8587AF0421283F7373956F 2DFA4543
> ARMY.MIL. 10800 IN RRSIG DS 8 2 10800 20241224000431 20241217000431 40843
> mil. oGdnWjQd0HT+UP0o7ct3fbY/Ur/bcxWX6sYflvIZnGy5VlpEB8TF1xQG
> gtwtHUhfcPTHxUHIqnN+CDarvQTGSbfjCDOrHtYKt1kSSQD91Gz3efgP
> 4G68ACiGH7SbMUOpDGIBQ/MWzibBPnE1biJchhPuMALfz9GO2qM2Sb5c IIw=
> ;; Received 410 bytes from 199.252.154.234#53(eur1.nipr.mil) in 32 ms
>
> extranet.aro.army.mil. 3600 IN CNAME aro.army.mil.apps.gcds.disa.mil.
> extranet.aro.army.mil. 3600 IN RRSIG CNAME 8 4 3600 20241220162507
> 20241216162111 44331 aro.army.mil.
> GQ8IGU9aMU6ZiVZrIAJJDv+kPU7YGYs66bpQiMtNw2VtoScz9uhhOs7M
> Nns1t8uClwMhVVr/NE0cPh5yK7Y0p4AQQWJT3IY07b+5Jy5HFf0bwEWs
> lBTjqvVOzaVdKXAW0SSTt8dd8phvIskmKDJDPeJx05HKd6cIExzvG1dG
> M+krqrGsltBQANXByi5koLfUWaxLGzoC676kBM4MhxRHYOXaCzdhIf1K
> VWaxLMptuhVke1pi8oMY/4FQREs8PEwRwPVRRD4lgMw6XshRpVuI9V65
> r+JxiGI/kiwm9Z9ckr6nBEkkry/0/5G4NtcgzfncADRxUrUvJ5NNvd/E rHnhWw==
> aro.army.mil.apps.gcds.disa.mil. 3599 IN CNAME
> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil.
> aro.army.mil.apps.gcds.disa.mil. 3599 IN RRSIG CNAME 8 7 3600
> 20250108200421 20241209200421 57303 apps.gcds.disa.mil.
> Pw8WDBdIcSyZsOtYpuOw9/i2Bc4IfcPvel+/MU6GC7ekpS4ba7JZRv13
> 7se5C1VEOxQlKc+Z/yLY5EhfJfrlJg9QmIKXhRj9h2rzjsjoFljzp0PQ
> joSo7J4eiWGCPi9TNLWMiC5A8Qj8JYYdOHC0RRFWUOjGQHeGPvStcUfj ROQ=
> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil. 179 IN CNAME
> e1008.d.akamaiedge.akamai.csd.disa.mil.
> e1008.d.akamaiedge.akamai.csd.disa.mil. 14 IN A 214.48.248.31
> ;; Received 669 bytes from 140.153.43.44#53(NS01.ARMY.MIL) in 80 ms
>
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