The original zone has NS records in two domains:
t-ipnet.de. 82632 IN NS dns20.dns.t-ipnet.de.
t-ipnet.de. 82632 IN NS dns02.dns.t-ipnet.de.
t-ipnet.de. 82632 IN NS dns00.dns.t-ipnet.de.
t-ipnet.de. 82632 IN NS pns.dtag.de.
t-ipnet.de. 82632 IN NS dns50.dns.t-ipnet.de.

And dtag.de has:
dtag.de. 61568 IN NS pns.dtag.de.
dtag.de. 61568 IN NS ns1.telekom.net.

And telekom.net. has:
telekom.net. 3600 IN NS dns2.telekom.de.
telekom.net. 3600 IN NS pns.dtag.de.
telekom.net. 3600 IN NS dns1.telekom.de.
telekom.net. 3600 IN NS ns1.telekom.net.

And telekom.de. has:
telekom.de. 3600 IN NS ns1.telekom.net.
telekom.de. 3600 IN NS dns1.telekom.de.
telekom.de. 3600 IN NS dns2.telekom.de.
telekom.de. 3600 IN NS pns.dtag.de.

This is the type of NS record 'tree' that I also had, that caused me
problems.

-- 
Bob Harold


On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 3:27 PM Ondřej Surý <ond...@isc.org> wrote:

> Ok, so according to zonemaster:
> https://zonemaster.net/en/result/7fc39ff8fc1766ac all the nameservers are
> in the same zone. I am guessing that any intermittent failure can cause a
> lot of outgoing queries.
>
> Anyway - since you are hitting the 32 limit, perhaps bumping the limit to
> 100 (the value before) would help in your case? I am guessing the resolver
> is being used for a limited set of clients and the chance of this specific
> abuse is quite low.
>
> https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9.18.29/notes.html#notes-for-bind-9-18-29
>
> Ondrej
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> On 6. 9. 2024, at 21:13, Ondřej Surý <ond...@isc.org> wrote:
>
> Now the question remains - why? I don’t really see a reason for this
> behavior from where I tested it, so what is the traffic between your
> recursor and the Internet during the time this happens?
>
> Ondřej
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> On 6. 9. 2024, at 20:54, Peter <p...@citylink.dinoex.sub.org> wrote:
>
>
> Sep  6 20:31:59 <local1.debug> pole named[71152]: resolver: debug 3:
> exceeded max queries resolving 'ns1.edns.t-ipnet.de/AAAA' (querycount=33,
> maxqueries=32)
>
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