Hi Fred,

the Dnstap UDS support is only tangential to this - the support for AF_UNIX is 
implemented in the fstrm library
and is outside of the scope for this change.

Ondřej
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> On 12. 9. 2023, at 18:18, Fred Morris <m3...@m3047.net> wrote:
> 
> No objections, however I hope somebody lets me know if the same thing is 
> contemplated for Dnstap and what the timeline is. I won't be unduly lathered 
> by such an occurrence but I'd rather not have fire drills (and it's not just 
> me it's people / projects downstream of me).
> 
> FTR, I've always used an IP address with RNDC.
> 
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>> 
>> [...] The support for Unix
>> Domain Sockets is already non-operational since BIND 9.18.0 and it is a fatal
>> error in named. This is properly documented in BIND 9.18.0 release notes and
>> known issues.
>> 
>> We are now proceeding to complete remove the rest of the code and 
>> documentation
>> from BIND 9.20+ (future release).
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> 1. Using 'unix' option in 'controls {}' block in named.conf is already a 
>> fatal error in named
>> 
>> The original issue is tracked under: 
>> https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/1759
> 
> This wasn't particularly reassuring considering the Dnstap case. It discusses 
> something called "netmgr" which is used for "incoming DNS queries and 
> responses" and that now is apparently being adapted to a control channel; it 
> talks about modifying it to support outbound TCP connections.
> 
> Dnstap has never been a server, it establishes an outbound connection to a 
> listener (server) on a unix socket. Seems like TCP has always been an option 
> for rndc, while it's never been an option for Dnstap; so that's a difference, 
> there's no explicit migration path at this moment.
> 
> Personally I'd be happy to see the last of framestreams (we don't need the 
> handshake, I've never used it and I've only ever seen it create confusion for 
> people trying to roll their own servers). I'd love to see UDP so that we 
> could get multicast (without a T/MG), but that doesn't allow for the Dnstap 
> overhead since DNS message sizes are already capped at the maximum possible 
> size of a UDP message.
> 
> Doing nothing is an option. ;-)
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the work you do...
> 
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