Unfortunately here a reload or a restart Does not fix it. And the problem of 
course is critical... no zone updates are working. So if no reason and fix is 
quickly found, need to step back and remove dnssec altogether.

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From: Browne, Stuart <Stuart.Browne@team.neustar>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:14:29 AM
To: Jukka Pakkanen <jukka.pakka...@qnet.fi>; bind-us...@isc.org 
<bind-us...@isc.org>
Subject: RE: DNSSEC zones not updated

Sadly, no ideas other than a shared experience. It's not just the Windows 
release nor is it just the 9.14 series of releases; we've been witnessing this 
since the 9.10 releases on Linux (whilst using inline-signing). I don't recall 
off the top of my head if we saw it in the 9.9 series; even for my memory that 
is too many iterations ago.

It isn't a regular occurrence by any means and it is fixed with a service 
restart. Sadly we only see this in our production environment and coupled with 
the time between the occurrence of the issue and the detection of the issue, 
getting decent debugging information has been challenging (which is why we 
haven't done much else about it other than restarting it when we see it occur).

Stuart

From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Jukka 
Pakkanen
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2020 9:41 AM
To: Jukka Pakkanen; bind-us...@isc.org
Subject: VS: DNSSEC zones not updated

Anyone, any ideas?

Lähettäjä: bind-users 
<bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org<mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org>> 
Puolesta Jukka Pakkanen
Lähetetty: 22. tammikuuta 2020 13:30
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Aihe: Re: DNSSEC zones not updated

And we also get after a change and a reload the "secure_serial: not exact" 
error, of course because the signed zone is not in sync with the non-signed 
anymore. So I guess the question is why it is not signing automatically after 
updates to zone.


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Subject: Re: DNSSEC zones not updated

Yed we have quite several times by now  when trying to find the culprit. Also 
the whole windows 2019 server. And it is not only this domain/zone, but all of 
them.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 1:08:22 PM
To: Jukka Pakkanen <jukka.pakka...@qnet.fi<mailto:jukka.pakka...@qnet.fi>>
Cc: bind-us...@isc.org<mailto:bind-us...@isc.org> 
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Subject: Re: DNSSEC zones not updated

Hi,

did you try stopping BIND, removing journal files and then starting BIND again?

If the signed copy of the zone got corrupted in the memory, you might be 
dumping the corrupted version on disk again with `rndc reload`.

Ondrej
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> On 22 Jan 2020, at 12:11, Jukka Pakkanen 
> <jukka.pakka...@qnet.fi<mailto:jukka.pakka...@qnet.fi>> wrote:
>
>
> Running BIND 9.14.9 Windows.   The zone data is not updated for some reason 
> anymore, and same problem in all our signed zones. Example "gemtrade.fi":
>
> zone "gemtrade.fi" {
>     type master;
>     file "named.gemtrade";
>     inline-signing yes;
>     auto-dnssec maintain;
> };
>
>
> ;
> ;    File: named.gemtrade
> ;
> $TTL 60
> @        IN SOA    ns1.qnet.fi. helpdesk.qnet.fi. (
>               202001234  ; serial number
>               28800      ; refresh every 12 hours
>               7200       ; retry after 2 hours
>               604800     ; expire after 2 weeks
>               33600)     ; default ttl is 2 days
> gemtrade.fi.        IN A      62.142.217.154
>                              IN MX     55 qntsrv8.qnet.fi.
>                 IN MX     25 qntsrv9.qnet.fi.
>                              IN NS     ns1.qnet.fi.
>                              IN NS     ns2.qnet.fi.
>                              IN NS     ns3.qnet.fi.
> www             IN A             62.142.217.154
> _autodiscover._tcp      IN SRV    0 5 443 mail.qnet.fi.
> localhost.gemtrade.fi.       IN A      127.0.0.1
>
>
> Used to work fine, now no matter what change I make to the zone file and 
> reload, it does not show up in queries, but the old data, weeks behind.  The 
> SOA & serial numbers *are* updating in the queries, but the actual records 
> not.  Example the MX records, currently I have priorities 55 and 25, still 
> inquiries return the old 20 and 20. Same with any records, the changes does 
> not get updated.
>
> Deleting the .jnl file does not help, after "rndc reload gemtrade.fi" a new 
> .jnl file is created, but queries still return old data.
>
> The named process has all possible rights in the file structure.
>
> What might be wrong?
>
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