Hi Cody,

Well, your "managed-keys" section looks almost right. It should *not*
have the dlv.isc.org key in there, because the DLV has retired. The root
zone keys look right.

If you set "dnssec-validation" to "auto" (the recommended setting), then
BIND *should* be able to validate. We don't know what your previous
setting of "dnssec-validation" was, before you turned it off. If it
still can't, then look at its log for more hints.

Regards,
Anand

On 14/10/2018 15:08, Cody Allen wrote:
> definitely not seeing those keys showing keyid: 19036 when i do rndc 
> managed-keys status but the key file
> shows both 20326 and 19036
> 
> bind.keys managed key section below
> 
> managed-keys {
>         # ISC DLV: See https://www.isc.org/solutions/dlv for details.
>         #
>         # NOTE: The ISC DLV zone is being phased out as of February 2017;
>         # the key will remain in place but the zone will be otherwise empty.
>         # Configuring "dnssec-lookaside auto;" to activate this key is
>         # harmless, but is no longer useful and is not recommended.
>         dlv.isc.org. initial-key 257 3 5 
> "BEAAAAPHMu/5onzrEE7z1egmhg/WPO0+juoZrW3euWEn4MxDCE1+lLy2
>                 brhQv5rN32RKtMzX6Mj70jdzeND4XknW58dnJNPCxn8+jAGl2FZLK8t+
>                 1uq4W+nnA3qO2+DL+k6BD4mewMLbIYFwe0PG73Te9fZ2kJb56dhgMde5
>                 ymX4BI/oQ+cAK50/xvJv00Frf8kw6ucMTwFlgPe+jnGxPPEmHAte/URk
>                 Y62ZfkLoBAADLHQ9IrS2tryAe7mbBZVcOwIeU/Rw/mRx/vwwMCTgNboM
>                 QKtUdvNXDrYJDSHZws3xiRXF1Rf+al9UmZfSav/4NWLKjHzpT59k/VSt
>                 TDN0YUuWrBNh";
> 
>         # ROOT KEYS: See https://data.iana.org/root-anchors/root-anchors.xml
>         # for current trust anchor information.
>         #
>         # These keys are activated by setting "dnssec-validation auto;"
>         # in named.conf.
>         #
>         # This key (19036) is to be phased out starting in 2017. It will
>         # remain in the root zone for some time after its successor key
>         # has been added. It will remain this file until it is removed from
>         # the root zone.
>         . initial-key 257 3 8 
> "AwEAAagAIKlVZrpC6Ia7gEzahOR+9W29euxhJhVVLOyQbSEW0O8gcCjF
>                 FVQUTf6v58fLjwBd0YI0EzrAcQqBGCzh/RStIoO8g0NfnfL2MTJRkxoX
>                 bfDaUeVPQuYEhg37NZWAJQ9VnMVDxP/VHL496M/QZxkjf5/Efucp2gaD
>                 X6RS6CXpoY68LsvPVjR0ZSwzz1apAzvN9dlzEheX7ICJBBtuA6G3LQpz
>                 W5hOA2hzCTMjJPJ8LbqF6dsV6DoBQzgul0sGIcGOYl7OyQdXfZ57relS
>                 Qageu+ipAdTTJ25AsRTAoub8ONGcLmqrAmRLKBP1dfwhYB4N7knNnulq
>                 QxA+Uk1ihz0=";
> 
>         # This key (20326) is to be published in the root zone in 2017.
>         # Servers which were already using the old key (19036) should
>         # roll seamlessly to this new one via RFC 5011 rollover. Servers
>         # being set up for the first time can use the contents of this
>         # file as initializing keys; thereafter, the keys in the
>         # managed key database will be trusted and maintained
>         # automatically.
>         . initial-key 257 3 8 
> "AwEAAaz/tAm8yTn4Mfeh5eyI96WSVexTBAvkMgJzkKTOiW1vkIbzxeF3
>                 +/4RgWOq7HrxRixHlFlExOLAJr5emLvN7SWXgnLh4+B5xQlNVz8Og8kv
>                 ArMtNROxVQuCaSnIDdD5LKyWbRd2n9WGe2R8PzgCmr3EgVLrjyBxWezF
>                 0jLHwVN8efS3rCj/EWgvIWgb9tarpVUDK/b58Da+sqqls3eNbuv7pr+e
>                 oZG+SrDK6nWeL3c6H5Apxz7LjVc1uTIdsIXxuOLYA4/ilBmSVIzuDWfd
>                 RUfhHdY6+cn8HFRm+2hM8AnXGXws9555KrUB5qihylGa8subX2Nn6UwN
>                 R1AkUTV74bU=";
> };
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Anand Buddhdev <ana...@ripe.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 14/10/2018 14:17, Cody Allen wrote:
>>
>>> issue just started on 10/13/2018 both servers impacted at same time, clocks 
>>> are correct, version of bind is 9.11.1 impacting recursion on internal 
>>> view, authoritative zones work fine, servers have been running for couple 
>>> of years or longer with zero problems.  most recent version of bind.keys 
>>> installed. only solution has been to set dnssec-validation to no
>>
>> On 11 October 2018, at 16:00 UTC, the root zone KSK was rolled. You're
>> almost certainly affected by this. But saying that "the most recent
>> version of bind.keys is installed" is meaningless, because I have no
>> idea what your definition of "most recent" is. At the very least,
>> provide the key IDs of the keys in your bind.keys file. If you don't
>> have key ID 20326 in there, you won't be able to do DNSSEC validation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anand
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