Am 07.02.2017 um 22:11 schrieb Mark Andrews:
In message <3836f038-c480-9970-fd53-a5c87ad36...@thelounge.net>, Reindl Harald 
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Break them.  That's the only way it will eventually get fixed

if things would be that easy....

the admins of the broken servers ar the very last which are affected,
admins with a recent named have to bite the bullet of user terror and
users typically don#t give a damn when it worked yesterday

the admins of the broken server don't give a damn about as long they can
point their fingers and say "look, the rest of the world has no lookup
errors"

if it would be that easy the problem of spam would not exist for many
years while in reality you waste most of our time to write exceptions
here and there, disable rules or score them lower because you are not in
the position to educate every admin of sending servers out there

You go over the admins head.  You go to the board of directors.
You go the the minister responsible (yes, I have had to do that
along with a copy to the shadow minister and the company that the
DNS was outsourced to for government domains).  Good old snail mail

if *you* do that from your position it may work but still takes time in a world where it somestimes takes days and weeks to find somebody who can instruct a admin to change a simple CNAME record from machine A to machine B even with the directors OK and CC'ed in the message

i doubt it works the same way for a ordinary admin in a small company where you to make it work because *you* broke it with the named update and so your advise will be "roll back that stuff to the state of yesterday where it worked and no you have not the free time to call each and every company and educate them"

problem here is that as long it's not a critical mass anybody who deployed the update breaking things have to bleed for it and so you have to find enough people with the power to go over admins head *before* the breaking updates

and no, when in your company people can't work because DNS is broken you don't call foreign admins and directors - you have to fix that *now* and after you have fixed it you have no longer arumgents why call somebody with no direct relations
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