In message <51b9fb6a.1090...@tiggee.com>, 
David Miller <dmil...@tiggee.com> wrote:

>A system that requires the victim to take action to stop attacks...

You mean like the defacto "system" we have right now?

>... might be misconstrued by some to be abdicating the responsibility
>of the upper four levels.

Ummm... I don't quite know how to break this to you, but...

>Agreed.  Close all open resolvers as well.

I may be alone, but I am not persuaded that that even entirely solves
the problem.  (And I'm not sure that vigorous community efforts to
close all open resolvers aren't perhaps a tad bit misguided, even if
still good and beneficial.)

If Joe is authoritative for a zone `Z' which happens to have, oh, say, 4000
bytes worth of crap in its ANY responses (counting all the DNSSEC and SPF
cruft) and if I spoof an ANY request to Joe for Z with your IP address on
it, what's gonna happen to you?

Multiply this by millions of Joes and millions of zones which have been
fluffed up with either DNSSEC and/or fat SPF TXT records and I don't need
there to be a single "open" resolver on the Internet in order to kill
you deader than a doornail.


Regards,
rfg

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