Good explanation of Service Discovery:
http://www.dns-sd.org/

Also, Bonjour is a big offender:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_%28software%29
A lot of Apple apps use it like itunes.

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   1. Question about connections to BIND and tcp 443 (Moore, Mark A.)
   2. Re: Question about connections to BIND and tcp 443 (SM)
   3. Re: Question about connections to BIND and tcp 443 (Adam Tkac)
   4. Re: Question about connections to BIND and tcp 443 (Jan-Piet Mens)
   5. What can cause excessive amount of _dns-sd queries? (Eivind Olsen)
   6. Re: What can cause excessive amount of _dns-sd queries?
      (Torsten Segner)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:38:18 -0600
From: "Moore, Mark A." <mmo...@osmre.gov>
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Subject: Question about connections to BIND and tcp 443
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Good afternoon. We are currently running BIND on our RHEL 5.x servers and see 
connection attempts from our internal clients to the BIND on tcp 443. They are 
currently being block from connecting to 443 since these servers are only DNS. 
Is there any reason for clients to connect to tcp 443 for any type of DNS 
resolution? Just want to confirm before I dig deeper into this issue.

Thx in advance for any assistance provided.

Mark

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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:06:15 -0700
From: SM <s...@resistor.net>
To: "Moore, Mark A." <mmo...@osmre.gov>
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: Question about connections to BIND and tcp 443
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At 07:38 22-08-2012, Moore, Mark A. wrote:
>from connecting to 443 since these servers are only DNS. Is there
>any reason for clients to connect to tcp 443 for any type of DNS
>resolution? Just want to confirm before I dig deeper into this issue.

No.

Regards,
-sm



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:31:51 -0400
From: Adam Tkac <at...@redhat.com>
To: "Moore, Mark A." <mmo...@osmre.gov>
Cc: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" <bind-users@lists.isc.org>
Subject: Re: Question about connections to BIND and tcp 443
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On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:38:18AM -0600, Moore, Mark A. wrote:
> Good afternoon. We are currently running BIND on our RHEL 5.x servers and see 
> connection attempts from our internal clients to the BIND on tcp 443. They 
> are currently being block from connecting to 443 since these servers are only 
> DNS. Is there any reason for clients to connect to tcp 443 for any type of 
> DNS resolution? Just want to confirm before I dig deeper into this issue.
>
> Thx in advance for any assistance provided.
>
> Mark

If some of your clients use dnssec-trigger for DNSSEC setup 
(http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/dnssec-trigger), it can probe your server for 
"DNS-over-SSL". Check dnssec-trigger overview, section "How does it work" for 
more details.

Note this doesn't mean you should allow connections to port 443.

Regards, Adam

--
Adam Tkac, Red Hat, Inc.


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:27:23 +0200
From: Jan-Piet Mens <jpmens....@gmail.com>
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: Question about connections to BIND and tcp 443
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> They are currently being block from connecting to 443 since these
> servers are only DNS. Is there any reason for clients to connect to
> tcp 443 for any type of DNS resolution?

Sounds a bit as though your clients think the BIND box is a HTTP origin
server... I'd look into what programs they're running and how those are
configured. Other than that, no: there is no reason for a typical DNS
client to attempt TCP/443 unless your clients are running dnssec-trigger
[1]

        -JP

[1] http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/dnssec-trigger/


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:43:32 +0200
From: "Eivind Olsen" <eiv...@aminor.no>
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: What can cause excessive amount of _dns-sd queries?
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Hello.

I haven't seen this before.. I'm currently seeing someone (1 ip address)
do about 2.1 million queries / hour where a majority of the queries seem
to be:

b._dns-sd._udp.0.129.16.172.in-addr.arpa IN PTR +
db._dns-sd._udp.0.129.16.172.in-addr.arpa IN PTR +
r._dns-sd._udp.0.129.16.172.in-addr.arpa IN PTR +
talk.l.google.com IN A +
gmail-pop.l.google.com IN A +
gmail-imap.l.google.com IN A +

...and similar variations of these.

Have any of you seen something like this before?

Regards
Eivind Olsen




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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:58:57 +0200
From: Torsten Segner <tors...@segner.eu>
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: What can cause excessive amount of _dns-sd queries?
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Am Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:43:32 +0200
schrieb "Eivind Olsen" <eiv...@aminor.no>:

> Hello.
>
> I haven't seen this before.. I'm currently seeing someone (1 ip address)
> do about 2.1 million queries / hour where a majority of the queries seem
> to be:
>
> b._dns-sd._udp.0.129.16.172.in-addr.arpa IN PTR +
> db._dns-sd._udp.0.129.16.172.in-addr.arpa IN PTR +
> r._dns-sd._udp.0.129.16.172.in-addr.arpa IN PTR +
> talk.l.google.com IN A +
> gmail-pop.l.google.com IN A +
> gmail-imap.l.google.com IN A +
>
> ...and similar variations of these.
>
> Have any of you seen something like this before?
>


Hi Eivind,

these seem to be DNS Service Discovery requests and yes, we see loads of them 
on our servers.


http://files.dns-sd.org/draft-cheshire-dnsext-dns-sd.txt



Ciao
Torsten


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