Hi Rob,

VeriSign contact as the operator of g.gtld-servers.net in CC.

I think your resolver is noticing the right thing here. When running multiple 
queries against this server I occassionally receive a response that indeed has 
no signatures:
$ dig @192.42.93.30 google.com +dnssec +norec 

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3-P3 <<>> @192.42.93.30 google.com +dnssec +norec
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61625
;; flags: qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 5

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;google.com.                    IN      A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns2.google.com.
google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns1.google.com.
google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns3.google.com.
google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns4.google.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns2.google.com.         172800  IN      A       216.239.34.10
ns1.google.com.         172800  IN      A       216.239.32.10
ns3.google.com.         172800  IN      A       216.239.36.10
ns4.google.com.         172800  IN      A       216.239.38.10

;; Query time: 192 msec
;; SERVER: 192.42.93.30#53(192.42.93.30)
;; WHEN: Wed Feb 29 13:46:17 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 175

Probably one system in a load balancer setup that is broken. For the record, I 
seem to end up at their San Francisco site:
$ mtr -r -c 1 -w 192.42.93.30
  4.|-- 3842.gi0.br1.cit190.uecomm.net.au    0.0%     1    4.2   4.2   4.2   
4.2   0.0
  5.|-- vlan323.o3mlc76f05.optus.net.au      0.0%     1    7.3   7.3   7.3   
7.3   0.0
  6.|-- 61.88.221.71                         0.0%     1   19.4  19.4  19.4  
19.4   0.0
  7.|-- 203.208.148.17                       0.0%     1  230.4 230.4 230.4 
230.4   0.0
  8.|-- xe-4-1-0-0.laxow-dr2.ix.singtel.com  0.0%     1  177.3 177.3 177.3 
177.3   0.0
  9.|-- ???                                 100.0     1    0.0   0.0   0.0   
0.0   0.0
 10.|-- xe-0-2-0.r2.bb-fo.lax2.vrsn.net      0.0%     1  174.4 174.4 174.4 
174.4   0.0
 11.|-- xe-1-1-0.r2.bb-fo.sfo1.vrsn.net      0.0%     1  184.8 184.8 184.8 
184.8   0.0
 12.|-- xe-0-2-0.r1.bb-fo.sfo1.vrsn.net      0.0%     1  175.9 175.9 175.9 
175.9   0.0
 13.|-- xe-1-1-0.r1.edge-fo.sfo1.vrsn.net    0.0%     1  176.6 176.6 176.6 
176.6   0.0
 14.|-- host-158.edge-fo.sfo1.verisign.com   0.0%     1  185.2 185.2 185.2 
185.2   0.0
 15.|-- g.gtld-servers.net                   0.0%     1  178.8 178.8 178.8 
178.8   0.0

Regards,

--
Wolfgang Nagele
Senior Systems and Network Administrator
AusRegistry Pty Ltd
Level 8, 10 Queens Road
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 3004
Phone +61 3 9090 1756
Email: wolfgang.nag...@ausregistry.com.au
Web: www.ausregistry.com.au


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On Feb 29, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Rob Leslie wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Recently I’ve started getting numerous errors in my logs of the form:
> 
> Feb 24 15:12:50 server named[3511]:   validating @0xb8976b78: com SOA: got 
> insecure response; parent indicates it should be secure
> Feb 24 15:12:50 server named[3511]: error (no valid RRSIG) resolving 
> 'google.com/DS/IN': 192.42.93.30#53
> 
> These errors have occurred while attempting to resolve many different domains 
> (always under com or net), have occurred on several independent nameservers, 
> always involve SOA/DS RR types, and always mention 192.42.93.30 
> (g.gtld-servers.net).
> 
> The above date and time appears to be one of the earliest occurrences, but it 
> has been occurring consistently, about a few times per hour, ever since.
> 
> I’ve not noticed any problems with DNS resolution, and validation otherwise 
> seems to be working normally.
> 
> Can anyone point me in the right direction to help me understand what is 
> causing this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Rob Leslie
> r...@mars.org
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