On 20.10.11 16:11, Karl Auer wrote:
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:11:03 +1100
From: Karl Auer <ka...@biplane.com.au>
To: BIND users <bind-us...@isc.org>
Subject: Re: intermittent bad horizontal referral?

Someone wrote (privately, so I'm not giving a name):
There's a bit of problem with the DNS.  You might want to jump over to
http://dns.squish.net/ and run an NS traversal for biplane.com.au --
pps.com.au's DNS is befuddled.

This is true. Two of the four PPS nameservers do not have glue records
in .com.au. What I don't understand is how a trace can compete at all,
if there is no glue.

There are glues for some of pps.com.au servers in com.au zone.
So, some glue records exists, alth0ougn not all that should exist.
However that's enough for the resolution to work.

If there are no referrals to x.com.au in .com.au, how can a query "jump
the gap"? Because I can see that happening in a trace. Here are two
traces for pps.com.au. The first shows referrals in .com.au, the second
does not. It looks as if n.au somehow answered directly, but g.au did
not.

n.au seems to handle both .au and .com.au, while s.au (not g.au) only handles .au, so it sent referral to com.au servers.

au.                     172800  IN      NS      o.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      n.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      a.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      l.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      m.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      r.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      h.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      p.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      s.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      u.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      v.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      b.au.
;; Received 496 bytes from 192.112.36.4#53(g.root-servers.net) in 348 ms

com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      q.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      j.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      i.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      h.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      o.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      l.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      g.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      n.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      m.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      p.au.
com.au.                 172800  IN      NS      k.au.
;; Received 408 bytes from 2607:f140:ffff:fffe::e#53(s.au) in 193 ms

pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns6.pps.com.au.
pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns4.pps.com.au.
pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns2.pps.com.au.
pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns1.pps.com.au.
pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns3.pps.com.au.
;; Received 214 bytes from 202.65.12.72#53(i.au) in 16 ms

[deleted]

au.                     172800  IN      NS      b.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      r.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      a.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      o.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      p.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      v.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      l.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      m.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      n.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      h.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      s.au.
au.                     172800  IN      NS      u.au.
;; Received 496 bytes from 2001:dc3::35#53(m.root-servers.net) in 178 ms

pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns3.pps.com.au.
pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns2.pps.com.au.
pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns4.pps.com.au.
pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns1.pps.com.au.
pps.com.au.             14400   IN      NS      ppsdns6.pps.com.au.
;; Received 214 bytes from 69.36.145.34#53(n.au) in 227 ms
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