joans4nz wrote:
Hi,

Thank you Mr Mark Andrews for your answer, and yes, I want help. I am sorry about my first message, I repeat bellow, so I change all CCC.BBB.AAA.in-addr.arpa's to my real numbers. Thank you one more time, but i don't understand very well your answers.

You said: Well you don't serve 66.6.190.in-addr.arpa and you don't allow recursion. You should make yourself a stealth slave for 66.6.190.in-addr.arpa. That way reverse lookups will continue to work when your external link goes down. It will also allow remote tools to not require recursion to be enabled to find the CNAME records when they query your server.


So do I must configure the zone 66.6.190.in-addr.arpa. as slave in my named.conf, and in the zone file do I must write the same SOA configuration of my ISP for this zone with the same serial, mail address, ..... and in NS records write this?

IN NS ns1.etecsa.net <http://ns1.etecsa.net> ;My ISP name server IN NS ns2.etecsa.net <http://ns2.etecsa.net> ;My ISP name server IN NS ns3.etecsa.net <http://ns3.etecsa.net> ;My ISP name server IN NS ns4.etecsa.net <http://ns4.etecsa.net> ;My ISP name server
     IN   NS   ns1.mincex.cu <http://ns1.mincex.cu>   ;My name server # 1
     IN   NS   ns2.mincex.cu <http://ns2.mincex.cu>   ;My name server # 2
You don't write records manually into a slave zone. You replicate the entire contents of the zone from the master server(s).

Is that correct? Because I don't know if my ISP allow transfer a copy of this zone to my DNS servers, I think is not allowed.
Mark was making a suggestion, it's not strictly necessary to get your reverse lookups working. But it is highly recommended, for redundancy and performance. Your ISP should open up zone transfers. You have, after all, been assigned part of that address range for your use. You are a legitimate "stakeholder", and should already have a business and trust relationship with your ISP. Get them to do it.

Unless you slave 66.6.190.in-addr.arpa or otherwise make a specific exception for it in your config, then queries for those names will fall into your default "deny" rule and you'll continue to get REFUSED responses.

You said: The zone's name is 224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa, 226.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa in not part of the zone.

Why not? If my new ip range address are from 190.6.66.25 to 190.6.66.238, I think 224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa include 226.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa address. Please explain me more about it?
Here's the key insight: BIND and DNS aren't treating those label-concatenations as addresses, only as names.

As a *name*, 226.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa is *not* contained within the 224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa subdomain any more than now.is.the.time.for.all.good.men is contained in heed/well.the.time.for.all.good.men. They share a common point in the hierarchy, but neither one contains the other.

Understand? They're *names*. There is no "address intelligence" or "CIDR intelligence" by DNS with respect to the in-addr.arpa tree. It's treated just a sequence of labels that happens to follow a particular naming convention.

You don't even need to use CIDR ("slash") notation as the convention, by the way. Read RFC 2317. Some folks even opt -- in co-operation with their ISP -- to point those CNAMEs to PTRs residing in their "forward" zone:

In 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa;
4.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. cname 4.3.2.1.rev.example.com.

In example.com:
4.3.2.1.rev.example.com. ptr foo.example.com.

which is perfectly legal.

They're just names. You can put them anywhere, the CNAMEs just need to point to the right place. Since your ISP maintains the CNAMEs they get the final say on where they point, but you can make suggestions.

- Kevin


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Hi,

I use Bind-9.4.2 running on FreeBSD-7.2.

Last week my DNS was reconfigured to a new IP address pool by my ISP and by me from a /29 to /28 address range.

Using "How is my DNS" I check my domain and all is good except reverse lookup. My ISP also reconfigured the PTR zone and delegate the reverse zone like RFC-2317 and this is the change executed by my ISP.

224/28   IN   NS   ns1.mincex.cu <http://ns1.mincex.cu>
224/28   IN   NS   ns2.mincex.cu <http://ns2.mincex.cu>
225        IN   CNAME   225.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
226        IN   CNAME   226.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
227        IN   CNAME   227.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
228        IN   CNAME   228.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
229        IN   CNAME   229.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
230        IN   CNAME   230.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
231        IN   CNAME   231.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
232        IN   CNAME   232.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
233        IN   CNAME   233.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
234        IN   CNAME   234.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
235        IN   CNAME   235.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
236        IN   CNAME   236.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
237        IN   CNAME   237.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.
238        IN   CNAME   238.224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa.

I have configured my PTR zone 224/28.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa. but, when I test my PTR zone using "www.kloth.net/services/nslookup.php <http://www.kloth.net/services/nslookup.php>" or "network-tools.com/nslook/Default.asp <http://network-tools.com/nslook/Default.asp>" using default name server I receive "Queried domain does not exist".

If I test my zone using my name server in this web sites mentioned I receive:

server can't find 226.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa: REFUSED

If I use the syntax:

226.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ns1.mincex.cu <http://ns1.mincex.cu>.

/var/log/messages show

named[38267]: master/db.190.6.66.224:21: ignoring out-of-zone data (226.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa)

226 IN PTR ns1.mincex.cu <http://ns1.mincex.cu>.

/var/log/messages does not show any messages but when I test my DNS server from the web sites before mentioned I still receive

server can't find 226.66.6.190.in-addr.arpa: REFUSED

If I modify the PTR zone in named.conf and db file to 66.6.190.in-addr.arpa. /var/log/messages does not show any messages and when I test my DNS server from the web sites before mentioned I receive a good answer from my DNS server.

$ORIGIN 224/28.6.66.190.IN-ADDR.ARPA. does not work

$ORIGIN 6.66.190.IN-ADDR.ARPA. it work

What is wrong?

Why does not work using 224/28.66.6.190.IN-ADDR.ARPA. zone configuration?

Thanks for your time.

joans4nz
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