Michael Milligan wrote:
Mark Andrews wrote:
In message <4a4dd8a6.70...@bluewin.ch>, "Martin.Wismer." writes:
Hello Mark, Hello Jittinan,

thank you for informing us/me, that bluewin.ch shod do some improovements in our dns-settings. Yes, the bluewin.ch is on 4 dns-bind-Server's, but some Entries, www.bluewin.ch, are delegated to 4 Global-Site-Selectors which act as DNS-Server's.
Mark:
If I understand you correctly, the GSS should also return SOA and NS Records for the domain www.bluewin.ch.
Could you confirm, that's, what a propper delegation would mean?
Yes. That is what should be returned when a SOA or NS query is made for www.bluewin.ch to the GSS servers.


My gawd...  say it ain't so.  I opened bugs for this with Cisco way back
when it was called Distributed Director (circa 1996).  So sad to see
this is /still/ broken and that they just don't care about fixing it.
And I bet it still does improper "bouncing" (referrals) back to a
different set of servers for resolving records it doesn't have (e.g.,
MX).  All these (mis)behaviors regularly causes problems for
troubleshooters.  And I can just imagine how they will deal with DNSSEC...

I think they've been promising a "fully-featured DNS implementation" for a few releases now.

I'm not sure what you mean by "bouncing referrals". We use a "shadow" zone behind the GSSes to provide the necessary SOA/NS apex records.

It's ugly, but it works, kinda...

One compromise we had to make is to put a "dummy" wildcard record in the shadow zone, to prevent potentially-troublesome NXDOMAIN responses from ever being generated by the shadow-zone servers and passed back verbatim. It would have been nicer if the GSS could understand that (NXDOMAIN from shadow zone + records in GSS for the name -> NODATA back to the client), but hey, I guess that's asking too much.

Even QTYPE=* queries work, if I recall our conformance testing correctly, with the GSS being at least smart enough to "merge" the shadow and non-shadow RRsets in that case. We don't have any use for that in production, but it's nice to know we could if we wanted to.

- Kevin

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