Mani, That's a very general question, and I don't claim to be an expert on all aspects of dns security, so hopefully those who are will chime in on this point. I think most of those who are knowledge about dns would probably recommend separating your authoritative and caching servers, especially if you're a big dns shop hosting lots of domains, but I'm not sure if that's for security reasons or for performance reasons. If you're a small shop and host relatively few domains and you want to present the same records for public domains to both internal and external clients, then I personally don't see that it would hurt to make one server both authoritative and caching from a security standpoint. You'd want to be careful about allowing recursion to only your internal clients, of course, and you'd want to restrict access to private zones to only your internal clients (see below). If you want to have public and private views of the same zones (which is often the case), then it might be just as easy to have separate authoritative and caching servers. If you want your abc.com server to be purely authoritative, then you'll want to restore your original "recursion=no" in the options. You should also move the "10.168.192.in-addr.arpa" zone to your caching server. That's private address space, so you don't want to serve that data to internet hosts. (If you decide to make abc.com both authoritative and caching, you'll want to add an "allow-query" statement to that zone restricting it to only internal clients.) For a caching server, the only zones you should need are the root hints zone and any zones you may have for internal clients (like "10.168.192.in-addr.arpa" and internal versions of other zones like "abc.com"). You'd want "allow-query" and "allow-recursion" statements in your global options restricting queries and recursion to your internal clients. (I suppose you could use "recursion=yes" instead of "allow-recursion { internal-clients; }", but "allow-recursion" seems safer to me.) Ben
________________________________ From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of T MANIKANDAN-PKXR74 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:57 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: RE: Root Server Simulation Communication Problem Ben, In that case if I want an authoritative server and also a caching name server, is it fine if I place both the functionalities together as a best practice of implementation, how about security issues ?, If I want to introduce one more server for caching functionality alone how will I separate both in two different servers what are the changes I will be making in my abc.com server and what configuration should be there for the new caching name server, so that my clients can do a external query. Regards Mani ________________________________ From: Ben Bridges [mailto:bbrid...@springnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:26 PM To: T MANIKANDAN-PKXR74; bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: RE: Root Server Simulation Communication Problem Mani, With recursion enabled, your abc.com server is both authoritative (for the zones configured in named.conf) and caching. If you want it to be purely authoritative, you'll need to disable recursion. But if you want to be able to query it for the root server (which is why you started this thread), you're going to have to allow recursion for at least your internal hosts because the server is not authoritative for ".". Why are you wanting to be able to query it for the root server? To want to be able to query a purely authoritative server for something for which it is not authoritative is a bit of a self-contradiction. Ben ________________________________ From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of T MANIKANDAN-PKXR74 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:52 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: RE: Root Server Simulation Communication Problem Hi Ben, Thanks for reply now my root server (rootns.man) is responding to abc.com. after enabling the recursion to Yes in abc.com server, now my question is, Is my abc.com still called authoritative Name server or a caching name server I was intend to set up a authoritative name server, and hope by enabling recursion iam still authoritative server. Regards Mani ________________________________ From: Ben Bridges [mailto:bbrid...@springnet.net] Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:35 PM To: T MANIKANDAN-PKXR74; bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: RE: Root Server Simulation Communication Problem You have recursion disabled on your abc.com server, and I believe that is preventing your query from succeeding. My understanding is that the contents of the root hints file are not stored in the server's cache (which means, I think, that they are not themselves returned in response to queries for those records). Since you have recursion disabled on abc.com, it is never using its root hints to query your root server (rootns.man) for the NS and A records for the root zone (which sounds obfuscated, but it is done that way because the root servers themselves have the most current list of servers for the root zone). ________________________________ From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of T MANIKANDAN-PKXR74 Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:30 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Root Server Simulation Communication Problem Hi, I am trying to set up lab which replicates the root server also. ( DNS with Root server simulation for Intranet), Basically I have two servers one abc.com as authoritative server and the other rootns.man acting as root server. running BIND 9 on both. I have done the following things in my named.conf file options { directory "/var/named"; recursion no; }; zone "." { type hint; file "root"; }; zone "abc.com" IN { type master; file "forward"; }; zone "10.168.192.in-addr.arpa" IN { type master; file "reverse"; }; My root File (Points to another DNS acting as Root server let us call rootns.man) . 86400 IN NS rootns.man. rootns.man. 86400 IN A 1.2.3.4 My Forward and reverse file $TTL 3600 @ IN SOA abc.com. root.abc.com. ( 42 ; serial 3H ; refresh 15M ; retry 1W ; expiry 1D) ; minimum IN NS abc.com. abc.com. IN A 192.168.10.12 $TTL 3600 @ IN SOA abc.com. root.abc.com.( 42 ; serial 3H ; refresh 15M ; retry 1W ; expiry 1D) ; minimum IN NS abc.com. 12 IN PTR abc.com. In the other DNS server rootns.man (acting root server) zone "." IN { type master; file "forward"; }; Forward file in roons.man server $TTL 86400 @ IN SOA rootns.man root.rootns.man ( 42 ; serial (d. adams) 3H ; refresh 15M ; retry 1W ; expiry 1D ) ; minimum . IN NS rootns.man. rootns.man. IN A 1.2.3.4 Once completing this I have a minor problem that is my abc.com server is not able to determine the root server (rootns.man) IP address. attached the DIG output from abc.com server. can any one please help me in resolving this issue. Regards Mani
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