In article <glm61r$5l...@sf1.isc.org>, "Al Stu" <al_...@verizon.net> 
wrote:

> Yes,  the response to an MX query, that is the subject here.  And a CNAME is 
> in fact permitted and specified by the RFC's to be accepted as the response 
> to an MX lookup.

No, we're talking about the response to the A query for the name that 
the MX points to.  The section below is talking about the response to 
the original MX query.  E.g. when sending mail to f...@mail.company.com, 
mail.company.com is allowed to be a CNAME.  So you can have:

mail.company.com. CNAME company.com.
company.com. MX 10 mx.company.com.

but you still aren't supposed to have:

mx.company.com. CNAME mxserver.company.com.

> 
> "If the response does not contain an error response, and does not contain 
> aliases"
> See there, alias is permitted.  You just keep proving the my case.
> 
> I am not taking it out of context.  It is very explicitly stated.  And the 
> context is that of locating the target/remote host by first submitting an MX 
> query, then submitting an A query of the MX query result.  The MX query 
> result is permitted to be and alias, which in turn when submitted for an A 
> query results in both the A and CNAME being returned.  Thus meeting the SMTP 
> RFC requirements.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Andrews" <mark_andr...@isc.org>
> To: "Al Stu" <al_...@verizon.net>
> Cc: <bind-users@lists.isc.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT 
> "Illegal"
> 
> 
> >
> > In message <3c802402a28c4b2390b088242a91f...@ahsnbw1>, "Al Stu" writes:
> >>
> >> RFC 974:
> >> "There is one other special case.  If the response contains an answer 
> >> which
> >> is a CNAME RR, it indicates that REMOTE is actually an alias for some 
> >> other
> >> domain name. The query should be repeated with the canonical domain 
> >> name."
> >
> > And that is talking about the response to a MX query.  The section
> > from which you quote starts with:
> >
> > Issuing a Query
> >
> >   The first step for the mailer at LOCAL is to issue a query for MX RRs
> >   for REMOTE.  It is strongly urged that this step be taken every time
> >   a mailer attempts to send the message.  The hope is that changes in
> >   the domain database will rapidly be used by mailers, and thus domain
> >   administrators will be able to re-route in-transit messages for
> >   defective hosts by simply changing their domain databases.
> >
> > and the paragraph after that which you quote is:
> >
> >   If the response does not contain an error response, and does not
> >   contain aliases, its answer section should be a (possibly zero
> >   length) list of MX RRs for domain name REMOTE (or REMOTE's true
> >   domain name if REMOTE was a alias).  The next section describes how
> >   this list is interpreted.
> >
> > So I would suggest that you stop taking text out of context.
> >
> > CNAME -> MX is legal
> > MX -> CNAME is illegal
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Scott Haneda" <talkli...@newgeo.com>
> >> To: "Al Stu" <al_...@verizon.net>
> >> Cc: <bind-users@lists.isc.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:09 PM
> >> Subject: Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT
> >> "Illegal"
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jan 26, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Al Stu wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If you refuse a CNAME then it is your SMTP server that is broken. 
> >> >> The
> >> >> SMTP RFC's clearly state that SMTP servers are to accept and  lookup a
> >> >> CNAME.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [RFC974] explicitly states that MX records shall not point to an alias
> >> > defined by a CNAME.  That is what I was talking about, are you saying
> >> > this is not correct?  As this is what I was under the impression for
> >> > quite some time.
> >> > --
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >>
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