Les Caudle wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:26:11 +1100, Mark Andrews
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Les Caudle writes:
I noticed that I could not access this web page from within my
network:

http://worldnet.att.net/general-info/bls_info/block_inquiry.html

I looked at the ip BIND 9.5.0 P2 returned for worldnet.att.net:

199.70.151.234

and compared it to the ip that SwBell returned:

204.127.135.135

I can use DNS from swBell to access that web page from outside my
network, but not from inside my own network based on BIND.

I restarted BIND, and I also tried:

rndc flush

BIND is set to go drectly to the main name servers, so I'm not sure
how it is getting corrupted.

How can I debug this?


--
Thanks! Les Caudle
        There is a glue record, which is incorrectly promoted to a
        answer, which needs to updated (if worldnet.att.net is a
        nameserver) / removed (if worldnet.att.net is not a
        nameserver).

worldnet.att.net.       172800  IN      A       199.70.151.234
att.net.                172800  IN      NS      macu.ma.mt.np.els-gms.att.net.
att.net.                172800  IN      NS      ohcu.oh.mt.np.els-gms.att.net.
att.net.                172800  IN      NS      orcu.or.br.np.els-gms.att.net.
att.net.                172800  IN      NS      wycu.wy.br.np.els-gms.att.net.
;; Received 219 bytes from 192.12.94.30#53(e.gtld-servers.net) in 203 ms

        Mark

Mark - Are you saying that worldnet.att.net has their DNS settup
incorrectly?

Why is it that SwBell DNS returns the correct records, and BIND does
not?

How do I contact these folks if it is there problem?

Les,
I think what Mark is saying is that there are 2 problems here:

1) the "registry" database for .net has a record for worldnet.att.net that's stale. Presumably one or more .net domains were, at one time, delegated to this name (among other nameservers). That's why it's in the registry database. This can't be changed directly by WorldNet; like ordinary mortals, they would have to go through their registrar to get this record updated/deleted

2) Whatever implementation of DNS that is being run by the .net nameservers, it is "promoting" this stale glue record to the status of "answer". This is generally considered to be a violation of RFCs, although I think there's some ambiguity involved (e.g. whether the subparts of step 3 of the "Algorithm" in RFC 1034, Section 4.3.2, are to be evaluated sequentially or as a 3-way branch)

As for why one set of nameservers may give a different answer for worldnet.att.net than another set of nameservers, that's just the luck of the draw, depending on when the TTLs expired and what other queries those nameservers may be doing that would "refresh" the existing entries in the cache.

- Kevin

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