To give a bit more context to what I wrote, since I got some comments about this.
What I am arguing for is that the BF should invest in an online add-on repository and API (including API stability), while giving control and responsibility to add-on developers. I believe that will give a better outcome for users and most open-source add-on developers, many of whom develop add-ons not bundled with Blender. Credits and promotion can then be on a web page dedicated to the add-on. As long as add-ons are bundled it's not a bad thing to promote them or put the authors in the credits. It's just not where I see things going long term. On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 3:11 PM Brecht Van Lommel <brechtvanlom...@gmail.com> wrote: > Personally, I wouldn't change this. > > Add-ons authors are credited in the add-on preferences, where you go to > enable the add-on. The fact that they are bundled rather than installed > from an online repository (which is what we should do eventually) makes > little practical difference I think. > > For the release notes, I don't think we should be putting much emphasis on > add-ons that often have a UI/UX and design different than core Blender, > usually created by individuals without review. The freedom to do that > creates very useful functionality and leads to fast development, but I > wouldn't market that as part of Blender the product in the same way. > > The way I see it is that as an add-on author you get both the freedom and > the responsibility for development, docs, and marketing. If anything we > should decouple such things more, rather than integrating them. > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 6:07 AM Ryan Inch via Bf-committers < > bf-committers@blender.org> wrote: > >> Hi Dalai, >> I'm not talking about an add-on in particular, I'm referring to add-ons >> in general. >> >> In regard to your first point, we are agreed that the credit gen script >> is skipping add-ons; however, from what you've shown me, it looks like >> it would be easy to support. So I'm wondering why it is that add-ons >> are being skipped and what can be done to correct it for the 2.93 release? >> >> In regard to your second point, I am aware that it is the responsibility >> of the developer to document changes in the wiki release notes, I do so >> for every release, and I thank you for your willingness to help with any >> problems accessing the wiki. I was, however, referring to the fancier >> release notes [1] that are compiled from the wiki release notes, and >> that these have been lacking a section for add-ons recently. So, what >> is required to have an add-ons section added to the 'fancy' release notes? >> >> Ryan >> >> [1] https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/ >> >> On 2021-06-07 06:00 AM, bf-committers-requ...@blender.org wrote: >> > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 10:05:36 +0200 >> > From: Dalai Felinto<da...@blender.org> >> > To: bf-blender developers<bf-committers@blender.org> >> > Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released! >> > Message-ID: >> > <CAKD4fWcP41W8FFQW+5Tc5cAEwY= >> zavhavyzc5rws4jbbg1m...@mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> > >> > Hi Ryan, >> > Are you talking about an add-on in particular? There are two related but >> > separate topics in your email: >> > >> > 1. Contributors credit >> > The script that generates the credits [1] is indeed be skipping the >> add-on >> > repositories. >> > >> > 2. Release notes >> > It is the responsibility of any developer that contributes code, to >> > document the changes and mention them in the (wiki) release notes [2]. >> If >> > an add-on maintainer needs wiki access they can contact me directly via >> > email or as dfelinto in blender.chat. >> > >> > [1] - >> > >> https://developer.blender.org/diffusion/BDT/browse/master/utils/credits_git_gen.py >> > [2] -https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/2.93/Add-ons >> > >> > -Dalai- >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Dalai Felinto -da...@blender.org -www.blender.org >> > Blender Development Coordinator >> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands >> > >> > >> > Op za 5 jun. 2021 om 07:10 schreef Ryan Inch via Bf-committers < >> > bf-committers@blender.org>: >> > >> >> Congratulations on the release! Everything looks good, there seems to >> >> be tons of great improvements, >> >> and the reels are quite impressive. >> >> >> >> However, I have noticed that Add-ons are treated differently in the >> >> release notes. Judging by the emails from the bf-extensions mailing >> >> list, many of the Add-ons bundled with Blender receive dozens of >> updates >> >> between each release, but this hasn't lately been advertised in the >> >> release notes (aside from the occasional mention in @SouthernShotty's 5 >> >> minute videos, very grateful to him for that), plus the >> >> authors/maintainers and their commits to these Add-ons don't seem to be >> >> credited on the credits page[1]. Since the Add-ons are bundled with >> >> Blender, is there a reason that they aren't credited at release? >> >> >> >> If the reason for this is, in part, that authors/maintainers aren't >> >> adding their changes to the wiki version of the >> >> release notes in time, then I would like to inquire as to when the >> >> cutoff for editing the wiki is to make it into the >> >> release notes, or what else could be done to have them included? >> >> >> >> Ryan Inch (Imaginer) >> >> Developer of the Collection Manager Add-on. >> >> >> >> [1]https://www.blender.org/about/credits/ >> >> >> >> On 2021-06-03 06:00 AM,bf-committers-requ...@blender.org wrote: >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >> >>> Message: 1 >> >>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 19:18:32 +0200 >> >>> From: Dalai Felinto<da...@blender.org> >> >>> To: bf-blender developers<bf-committers@blender.org> >> >>> Subject: [Bf-committers] Blender 2.93 Released! >> >>> Message-ID: >> >>> < >> >> cakd4fwfyvsxy6ftazypgudjtnnxow1ftewsza4j5kbuwjkn...@mail.gmail.com> >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> Blender 2.93 LTS is officially released. >> >>> >> >>> The release notes are here: >> >>> https://www.blender.org/download/releases/2-93/ >> >>> >> >>> You can check two great videos with everything 2.93 related: >> >>> * Reel:https://youtu.be/fxNlpQYRz7s >> >>> * Features:https://youtu.be/mnnMFJ3iWH0 >> >>> >> >>> Congratulations everyone! >> >>> -Dalai- >> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> Dalai Felinto -da...@blender.org -www.blender.org >> >>> Blender Development Coordinator >> >>> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Bf-committers mailing list >> >> Bf-committers@blender.org >> >> https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >> >> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Subject: Digest Footer >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Bf-committers mailing list >> > Bf-committers@blender.org >> > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > End of Bf-committers Digest, Vol 946, Issue 1 >> > ********************************************* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bf-committers mailing list >> Bf-committers@blender.org >> https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >> > _______________________________________________ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org List details, subscription details or unsubscribe: https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
