Hi, Jeffery:

Thanks for your analysis.
Let’s try again to converge based on our current  mutual understandings.

First, the conclusion, the solution proposed in this document is necessary. 

Here is the reasoning: 
What you quoted at https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7432.html#section-9.2.1 is 
just the traditional layer 2 access EVPN services or one of our layer 3 
accessible EVPN service(“LSI based EVPN services”), the protocol extensions 
proposed in draft-wang-bess-l3-accessible-evpn is mainly for “LSI Aware Bundle 
EVPN services”, which is not covered by the current RFC7432, or any other 
existing EVPN related services.

For example:

A PE may advertise the same single EVPN label for all MAC addresses
   in a given MAC-VRF.  This label assignment is referred to as a per
   MAC-VRF label assignment.  

—-The above description corresponds to “Layer 2 VLAN Bundled EVPN Service”


Alternatively, a PE may advertise a unique
   EVPN label per <MAC-VRF, Ethernet tag> combination.  This label
   assignment is referred to as a per <MAC-VRF, Ethernet tag> label
   assignment.  

—-The above description corresponds to “Layer 2 VLAN Based EVPN Service”


As a third option, a PE may advertise a unique EVPN
   label per <ESI, Ethernet tag> combination.  This label assignment is
   referred to as a per <ESI, Ethernet tag> label assignment.  

—-The above description corresponds to “LSI Based EVPN Service”.

As a
   fourth option, a PE may advertise a unique EVPN label per MAC
   address.  This label assignment is referred to as a per MAC label
   assignment.  

—-The above description is just for some very specific situations, and is not 
in the scope of current “Layer 2 Access EVPN Service” or the corresponding 
newly proposed “Layer 3 accessible EVPN service” 


All of these label assignment methods have their
   trade-offs. 
 The choice of a particular label assignment methodology
   is purely local to the PE that originates the route


Aijun Wang
China Telecom


Aijun Wang
China Telecom
> On Mar 17, 2025, at 05:12, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang 
> <zzhang=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> Hi Aijun,
> 
> Now that the -08 revision has been published, let me bring this discussion to 
> the WG. The email thread has some details that help clarify the intended use 
> case and why the proposed solution is not needed or not good.
> 
> The draft does not clearly state it, but based on our discussions below, the 
> PE-CE connection is a PW that terminates into the EVPN PE. There are two 
> previous points that I want to re-emphasize here. I'll then explain why your 
> proposed solution is not needed in my view.
> 
> - There are already deployed solutions of PWs terminating into VPN service 
> PEs, including EVPN, w/o any protocol extensions
> - On the EVPN side, there is no difference between "a PW terminates into a 
> PW-PE, which then connects to EVPN PE via a physical L2 connection" and "a PW 
> terminates into the EVPN PE directly"
> 
> Your solution requires the ingress EVPN PEs to put on the PW information that 
> is used on the egress side. That is just unnecessary and not appropriate.
> 
> In the true L2 connection case, the MAC lookup on the egress PE leads to 
> local forwarding information, including the outgoing AC and perhaps VID 
> translation information.
> In the PW terminating into EVPN PE case, the same lookup leads to local 
> forwarding information, including the PW information, which is *local* and 
> should not be advertised other EVPN PEs for them to put into the VXLAN header.
> 
> If your intention is to avoid the MAC lookup on the egress PE (which the 
> draft does not talk about), it is an orthogonal issue (nothing to do with PW 
> terminating into EVPN PE) that is already solved. Per RFC7432:
> 
>   A PE may advertise the same single EVPN label for all MAC addresses
>   in a given MAC-VRF.  This label assignment is referred to as a per
>   MAC-VRF label assignment.  Alternatively, a PE may advertise a unique
>   EVPN label per <MAC-VRF, Ethernet tag> combination.  This label
>   assignment is referred to as a per <MAC-VRF, Ethernet tag> label
>   assignment.  As a third option, a PE may advertise a unique EVPN
>   label per <ESI, Ethernet tag> combination.  This label assignment is
>   referred to as a per <ESI, Ethernet tag> label assignment.  As a
>   fourth option, a PE may advertise a unique EVPN label per MAC
>   address.  This label assignment is referred to as
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