Jeff:

Thanks for the input.   I'll add these topics to the IDR wiki page, the draft, 
and  my presentations.

Sue

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Thanks, Sue, for kicking this off. As usual, my input is a bit late, but 
hopefully still early enough for discussion at the upcoming session. Two 
additional topics appropriate for TEA templating that&
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Thanks, Sue, for kicking this off.

As usual, my input is a bit late, but hopefully still early enough for 
discussion at the upcoming session.

Two additional topics appropriate for TEA templating that's come up in prior 
review:
- Route selection impacts.  This overlaps somewhat with validation.
- Attribute (in this case, contents of the TEA) escape considerations.  This 
normally overlaps in the security considerations.

-- Jeff



On Mar 3, 2025, at 3:03 PM, Susan Hares 
<sha...@ndzh.com<mailto:sha...@ndzh.com>> wrote:

IDR and BESS WGs:

draft-hares-idr-bess-tea-templates provides guidance for authors
writing  text to define tunnel TLVs of Sub-TLVs for the BGP tunnel 
encapsulation attribute (TEA) [See RFC9012].

The goal behind this draft (or the web version on the IDR wiki:
(https://wiki.ietf.org/group/idr/TEA-templates<https://shared.outlook.inky.com/link?domain=wiki.ietf.org&t=h.eJw9jksOwiAURbdiGCuftkDpqA7cgRug5VGwPwI0Jhr3rkycnpx7ct_oiAvqTsjlHFJHyNPPHnvIFu9xIlPcj0C8ieR-u14yrGHRGRI6n9BcVhvkn8Yob4ViFUlOR0j9Zl4Oj_tKwA4KhtbKumkrNUo-QEOVAMEoNZJZwmTDqOKs5phXkglVylDKD6d16oONYzlSsCn4Dz5fcEQ39Q.MEUCIFzT2n0Wv1iqyuCrq6sbvqDtHIShDjjsZzYS0O50PThaAiEAldSN65QKs6YsbSaZV-MvrCylnMfQk-A4VMT5IqgZfok>)
is to help new and experience authors quickly write correct text
that has necessary information for interoperable standards.

The non-goal is to cause rewriting of good text in your drafts.

During IETF-122, I will review these guidelines (in BESS and IDR (Friday))
and provide working examples from the drafts specifying tunnels for
SR, SDWAN, NV03 (geneve), and multicast routing.

This draft is part of the IDR chairs continuing attempt to delays in
publications.

This draft comes with an offer to help write/edit text for
Tunnel TLV or Sub-TLVs for the TEA attribute.

Cheers, Sue Hares


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Name:     draft-hares-idr-bess-tea-templates
Revision: 00
Title:    Guidance for Authors writing text for the BGP Tunnel Encapsulation 
Attribute
Date:     2025-03-03
Group:    Individual Submission
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Abstract:

   The BGP (RFC4271) Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute (TEA) is defined in
   RFC9012.  Currently proposed BGP specifications in the IDR and BESS
   Working groups have defined new tunnels and new parameters for these
   tunnels in Sub-TLV.  The Segment Routing usage of the TEA has
   suggested a number of new Sub-TLVs.  This document provides
   guidelines to help authors quickly write correct text for new tunnels
   (defined in tunnel TLVs) and new Sub-TLVs.  These guidelines are
   given as "templates" to aid new authors.  More experience authors
   should view these templates as a list of expected content.

   One additional challenge for tunnels using the PMSI tunnels is to
   carefully define the interaction between PMSI tunnels and TEA
   tunnels.



The IETF Secretariat


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