Hi John,

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wirtgen-bgp-tls/

And for DTLS ... isn't this simply TCP over DTLS which works just fine ?

Many thx,
R.



On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 4:38 PM John Scudder <jgs=
40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I haven’t done a full review of this document, but I did notice that Roman
> Danyliw balloted DISCUSS on version 15 [1], asking, among other things,
> "Are there pointers for BGP over DTLS? Over TLS?”. This doesn’t appear to
> have been addressed, either in Linda’s reply to Roman [2], or in the text
> of the document. It seems ill-advised to be last calling a document with an
> unaddressed DISCUSS. For what it’s worth, Roman’s point seems to me to be
> on target — as far as I’m aware, there is no IETF specification for BGP
> over TLS, and I don’t expect that there will ever be a specification for
> BGP over DTLS, given that BGP assumes a stream transport.
>
> $0.02,
>
> —John
>
> [1]
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage/ballot/#draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage_roman-danyliw
> [2]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/-AT3GpMR6rr6-ywB5vWD7EbGk0w/
>
> > On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:58 AM, The IESG <iesg-secret...@ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The IESG has received a request from the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG (bess)
> to
> > consider the following document: - 'BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay
> Networks'
> >  <draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-19.txt> as Informational RFC
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> >
> >
> >   The document discusses the usage and applicability of BGP as the
> >   control plane for multiple SD-WAN scenarios. The document aims to
> >   demonstrate how the BGP-based control plane is used for large-
> >   scale SD-WAN overlay networks with little manual intervention.
> >
> >   SD-WAN edge nodes are commonly interconnected by multiple types of
> >   underlay networks owned and managed by different network
> >   providers.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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