Hi John,

Thanks for those details. I agree that there shouldn't be an issue with
your bare-bones proposal. An update with this text change and [1] has just
been posted:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-14

Please let us know if this addresses your concerns.

Thanks,
Ketan

[1] This is the clarification requested by Joel as discussed on the WG
mailer :
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/smMPKgPXxnOQ1rzWRf0IoKhSTfU/


On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 1:47 AM John Scudder <j...@juniper.net> wrote:

> Yes, you’re right that 9012 is another possible ref.
>
> Regarding the option of doing it in the current spec —
>
> - I hear you that you’re not certain you’d be capturing every relevant
> reference, however I think this is a case of “best is the enemy of good”.
> Listing the known references would be an improvement over the current state
> of affairs, likewise updating the description.
> - There is nothing preventing a later doc from updating the registry
> again, if that’s deemed necessary. Registries are updated all the time. So,
> we wouldn’t be foreclosing any options or doing anything irreversible.
> - Getting WG input (such as would come from a full last call) is certainly
> important for many things, but you’ve just pointed out yourself that this
> isn’t a functional change, so I think it’s unlikely that any harm would
> ensue from not invoking maximum process.
>
> I had a look at BCP 26/RFC 8216 and this approach seems consistent with
> the guidance there. Indeed, strictly speaking it would be inappropriate NOT
> to add [this document] as a reference in the registry, at minimum — so the
> only question then becomes, whether to update the description and add the
> other references at the same time.
>
> Bottom line, I continue to think it’s appropriate to do it in the current
> spec, and more expedient. Seems like all upside, no downside, very good
> bang-for-the-buck.
>
> Here’s what (per my reading of BCP 26 §7) the bare-bones update would look
> like:
>
> 9.X Subsequent Address Family Identifiers (SAFI) Parameters Registry
>
> IANA is requested to add this document as a reference for value 128 in the
> Subsequent Address Family Identifiers (SAFI) Parameters registry.
>
> That would then leave the other work for a later draft, as you suggest.
> I’m only providing the above for clarity, it’s not my recommendation, the
> earlier version is.
>
> —John
>
> > On Mar 22, 2022, at 3:27 PM, Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > This point was discussed amongst some of the authors. We were not sure
> if we had got all the references to the specs that do this kind of handling
> for "embedded label". RFC9012 came up as another possible reference.
> >
> > I was wondering if we could go about this change in a separate (AD
> sponsored?) draft so we don't miss anything and also get more inputs from
> the WGs involved? It is not a functional but an IANA update.
> >
> > I can volunteer to put together a short draft for this with your
> guidance.
> >
> > Please let me know your thoughts.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ketan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Mar, 2022, 12:33 am John Scudder, <j...@juniper.net> wrote:
> >> Hi Authors,
> >>
> >> I’m not sure if this point was considered and rejected (in which case
> let’s close it out in email please), or (more likely) just dropped?
> >>
> >> > On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:48 PM, Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi John,
> >> >
> >> >> Question: SAFI 128 is called “MPLS-labeled VPN address” in the IANA
> SAFI registry. Shouldn’t this be renamed? I mean, I guess it should have
> been renamed as of RFC 8365, but better late than never. I’m not sure quite
> what the name should become, but “MPLS-labeled” is manifestly wrong. Even
> “labeled” is wrong since the thing you’re stuffing in there isn’t a label.
> Since you’re the last one to touch it :-) if we can agree a better name for
> the SAFI I think it would be appropriate to add that to your IANA
> Considerations.
> >> >>
> >> > My suggestion would be: "VPN address & context"  or "Context & VPN
> address"
> >> >
> >> > Thx,
> >> > R.
> >>
> >> I like either of Robert’s suggestions. This would go some small way
> towards addressing my concern #2.
> >>
> >> Suggested text for the IANA Considerations section:
> >>
> >> 9.X Subsequent Address Family Identifiers (SAFI) Parameters Registry
> >>
> >> IANA maintains a registry called Subsequent Address Family Identifiers
> (SAFI) Parameters. In that registry, value 128 has the description
> "MPLS-labeled VPN address”, references [RFC4364][RFC8277]. This
> specification, as well as [RFC 8365] before it, changes the semantics of
> SAFI 128 such that it can carry values other than an MPLS label. Therefore,
> IANA is requested to update the description of value 128 to be "VPN address
> & context” and to add [RFC 8365] and [this document] as references.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> —John
> >
>
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