Hi Yuya,
Thanks.
Your explanation looks reasonable because section 8.2:
" If no other PE had advertised an Ethernet A-D route for the same segment, 
then the PE that received the withdrawal simply invalidates the MAC entries for 
that segment."
Does not say "MUST" or "SHOULD".
But the word "may" in this sentence was better to use.
OK. I understood. It is an optional feature that was not claimed optional 
plainly.
Eduard
-----Original Message-----
From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yuya KAWAKAMI
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 3:58 AM
To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>; 
bess@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [bess] Contradiction for the RFC 7432 definition of the fast 
convergence (withdrawal) for single-homed CEs

Hi Eduard,

As my understanding, these statements are not contradictory because mass 
withdrawal is an optional functionality.
Section 8.3 says when PEs are operating All-Active redundancy mode, Ethernet 
A-D per Ethernet Segment Route must be advertised for split horizon.
This would be reason why section 8.2.1 says "not needed" in case of 
single-homed scenarios.

I understand these sentences as:
- Implementations can use Ethernet A-D per ES routes to achieve mass withdrawal 
for single-homed CE (optional)
- If Implementations want to achieve mass withdrawal, Ethernet A-D per ES 
routes should be used

The implementation I'm using does not support mass withdrawal for single-homed 
CE.

If there is any misunderstanding, I would appreciate it if you could point it 
out.

Thanks,
Yuya

On 2021/12/08 4:24, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
> Hi EVPN guru,
> 
> It looks like RFC 7432 section 8.2.1 (Constructing Ethernet A-D per Ethernet 
> Segment Route) has an error:
> "The Ethernet A-D route is not needed when the Segment Identifier is set to 0 
> (e.g., single-homed scenarios)."
> 
> Because without "per ES route" it would not be possible to signal 
> "mass withdrawal" If CE-PE connection would fail That plainly promised for 
> single-homed CEs in section 8.2:
> " If no other PE had advertised an Ethernet A-D route for the same segment, 
> then the PE that received the withdrawal simply invalidates the MAC entries 
> for that segment."
> Or implied in section 17.3:
> "The Ethernet A-D per ES routes should be used by an implementation to 
> optimize the withdrawal of MAC/IP Advertisement routes."
> 
> Have I missed something?
> 
> Eduard
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