Perfect!  Looking forward to it!

Kind Regards

Gyan

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 11:01 PM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.i...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I’m planning to have a presentation in RTGWG that would explain RTO based
> header changes/ aka self healing fabie   (flow label in v6/ overlay
> transport layer source port in v4, in linux kernel since 2016), stay tuned.
> This is mostly relevant to DC domain and while host based still a very
> important improvement.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
> On Jul 14, 2021, at 18:21, Gyan Mishra <hayabusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> All
>
> I think I figured out how “source port entropy” works and provides
> “better” load balancing then traditional IGP & EGP based ECMP underlay
> algorithms that
> are subject to polarization.
>
> So normally w/o source port entropy vxlan feature the overlay NVE Anycast
> vtep tunnel as a tunnel source and destination so as it’s a single source /
> destination IP for the vtep tunnel termination, so that would get pinned to
> a single path similar to L2 VPN service label, single source / destination
> PE to PE single path.  So just as with L2 VPN you have the FAT PW which now
> you read into the payload and extract the src/dest flows and can now load
> balance the flows over Ethernet bundles.
>
> Similarly with VXLAN “source port entropy” per RFC 7348  the L2/L3/L4
> headers 5-tuple hash is used to generate the outer header udp source port
> which is used as the input key to the hashing function.  So one of the
> major advantages of VXLAN is now traffic can be much more uniformly evenly
> load balanced now with 5-tuple info over L3 ECMP path as compare to
> traditional IPv4 flow based per session source / destination hash load
> balancing.
>
> The vxlan 5-tuple hash input key to hash function is also very similar
> analogous to IPv6 flow label RFC 6437 5-tuple header hash input key to hash
> function stateless mode flow label uniform load balancing.
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Gyan
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 6:11 PM Gyan Mishra <hayabusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear BESS Experts
>>
>> ?? On NVO3 VXLAN overlay encapsulation
>>
>> My understanding of VXLAN source port entropy is to provide uniform load
>> balancing similar to RFC 6437 IPv6 flow label uniform stateful load
>> balancing, in NVO3 VXLAN context, using header 5-tuple L2/L3/L4 hash and
>> generating source port input key to hash function for per packet per flow
>>  uniform load balancing as achieved with EVPN ECMP pr weighted UCMP MHD
>> MLAG PE-CE AC.
>>
>> The problem with L3 ECMP and weighed UCMP is the Day 1 well known TCP
>> polarization of flows where high bandwidth flows are not evenly distributed
>> between L3 paths.
>>
>> So the question is does source port entropy provide per RFC 7348 excerpt
>> below provide per packet per flow load balancing or flow based where all
>> packets that are part of the same flow get hashed to the same path.
>>
>> Outer UDP Header:  This is the outer UDP header with a source port
>>       provided by the VTEP and the destination port being a well-known
>>       UDP port.
>>
>>       -  Destination Port: IANA has assigned the value 4789 for the
>>          VXLAN UDP port, and this value SHOULD be used by default as the
>>          destination UDP port.  Some early implementations of VXLAN have
>>          used other values for the destination port.  To enable
>>          interoperability with these implementations, the destination
>>          port SHOULD be configurable.
>>
>>       -  Source Port:  It is recommended that the UDP source port number
>>          be calculated using a hash of fields from the inner packet --
>>          one example being a hash of the inner Ethernet frame's headers.
>>          This is to enable a level of entropy for the ECMP/load-
>>          balancing of the VM-to-VM traffic across the VXLAN overlay.
>>          When calculating the UDP source port number in this manner, it
>>          is RECOMMENDED that the value be in the dynamic/private port
>>          range 49152-65535 [RFC6335 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6335>].
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Gyan
>>
>>
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