Hi,

I had had a read through the document. I think it is a nice clear document 
which is well written and is to me ready for publication. Below are a few 
topics that crossed my mind when digging through the text. I leave it to the 
authors/WG to identify if they are idnits or more serious considerations which 
need more text before submitting.

Section 3.
The procedures described in this document allows the network operator
   to configure multicast VPN PEs so that they can delay the propagation
   of multicast state prune messages, when faced with a rate of
   multicast state dynamicity exceeding a certain configurable
   threshold.


GV> This is the delay of Prune towards the SP side and the customer side? Maybe 
interesting to point out if its dampening towards the C’side or the P’side of 
the PE.

   To be practical, such a mechanism requires configurability, in
   particular, needs to offer means to control when damping is
   triggered, and to allow delaying a multicast state Prune for a time
   increasing with the churn of this multicast state.


GV> Would it make sense to spell out the exact trade-off that is made here? 
Dynamicity vs SP state-stability?

Section 4.2:
These mechanisms are not considered suitable to meet the goals
   spelled out in Section 1 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-multicast-damping-01#section-1>, 
the main reasons being that:


GV> What about adding a line specifying that fiddling with these timers does 
Not give independent control to the SP to control Backbone state dynamicity?

Section5.1:
Figure-of-merit: ….

GV> Maybe an explanation why exponential back off is used compared to a simple 
linear trigger would be interesting. While I know exponential back off alto’s 
are used a lot and see the benefit of adaptive back-off, it is maybe 
interesting to document in the draft or make a reference to a description why 
exponential back off is selected?

Section 6.2:
GV> In the realm of SDN and EVPN I see many of these EVPN’s be dynamic in 
location and existence (spin’d up on-demand) in the DC… There are even drafts 
to make an Ethernet fully virtual by means of Virtual Ethernet Segments… I was 
wondering how this proposal impacts the operation within this technology realm. 
My first guess will be more as additional (more as average) BW consumption at 
the benefit of less state dynamicity inside the core… Maybe different set of 
configured parameters for this environment can be suggested?

Section 7.1:
   In the context of multicast VPNs, these procedures would be enabled
   on PE routers.  Additionally in the case of C-multicast routing based
   on BGP extensions ([RFC6514 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6514>]) these 
procedures can be enabled on
ASBRs, and possibly Route Reflectors as well.

GV> What does “possibly” mean? Can it be used? Or can it not be used? Does the 
possible means that there are some considerations?

Section 9: Security Considerations  
GV> I agree with the text.. One item is that cast may stream longer to points 
in the network it is not-desired. Is there potential for leaked multicast 
streams due to highly dynamic service VPNs which may of converged faster as the 
Multicast pruning due to dampening?

Be well,
G/




On 08/12/15 10:27, "BESS on behalf of Martin Vigoureux" <[email protected] 
on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

>WG,
>
>we are reiterating the request below; we would highly appreciate reviews 
>from the WG before moving forward.
>
>Thank you
>M&T
>
>Le 21/11/2015 01:29, Martin Vigoureux a écrit :
>> WG
>>
>> This WG LC has ended some time ago but without any comment on the draft.
>> It might not have any flaw but I'd like to have the evidence that the
>> document has been reviewed.
>> Please take a moment to read it and get back to this list to share your
>> views.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -m
>>
>>
>> Le 13/10/2015 15:40, Martin Vigoureux a écrit :
>>> Hello Working Group,
>>>
>>> This email starts a Working Group Last Call on
>>> draft-ietf-bess-multicast-damping-01 [1] which is considered mature and
>>> ready for a final working group review.
>>>
>>> Please read the document if you haven't read the most recent
>>> version yet, and send your comments to the list, no later than
>>> *27th of October*.
>>>
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