HI John, Weiguo,

John E Drake :

It is needed in order to distinguish between an advertising node that only supports non-MPLS encapsulations and one that supports MPLS and non-MPLS encapsulations. An advertising node that only supports MPLS encapsulation does not need to advertise anything.


By the way, I suggested this to be documented in draft-rosen-idr-tunnel-encaps [1].

Best,

-Thomas

[1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/idr/current/msg14732.html


*From:*Haoweiguo [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:08 AM
*To:* Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge); [email protected]; John E Drake
*Cc:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

Jorge,

Understood, many thanks. Now that the default tunnel encapsulation is MPLS encapsulation, the tunnel type 10 seems to be unneccessary. So is the introduction of tunnel type 10 just for further removing ambiguity? If i don't use the tunnel type 10 in MPLS based EVPN implementation(RFC 7432), it will also never incur any issue. Am i right?

Thanks,

weiguo

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*From:*BESS [[email protected]] on behalf of Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) [[email protected]]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:47
*To:* Haoweiguo; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Cc:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

Weiguo,

Well, if an RFC7432 implementation does not use the RFC5512 ext community, the following sentence in the evan-overlay draft should help interoperability. I personally don’t see any issues.

If the BGP Encapsulation extended community is not present, then the
   default MPLS encapsulation or a statically configured encapsulation
   is assumed.

Thanks.

Jorge

*From: *Haoweiguo <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Date: *Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 7:03 PM
*To: *Jorge Rabadan <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *Cc: *"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject: *RE: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

    Jorge,

    Thanks for your explanations. However, i still can't understand,
    i'm sorry.

    RFC 5512 only defines IP tunnel type and encapsulation attribute,
    like L2TPv3,GRE and IP in IP.  For RFC 5512, MPLS tunnel doesn't
    need to be defined specifically, it is default case. In RFC 7432,
    the tunnel type 10 also hasn't been defined. Later, when the EVPN
    for overlay network solution was proposed, the tunnel type 10 was
    introduced to differentiate MPLS tunnel and VXLAN/NVGRE/MPLS Over
    GRE tunnel, because same route type 1,2,3,4 and 5 are used in both
    RFC 7432 and the draft 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'. We need
    the tunnel type to clearly notify peer EVPN PE which
    tunnel(including MPLS tunnel type) should be used.  So it
    introduced updates on RFC 7432 and will incur some interoperbility
    issue for RFC 7432. Am i right?

    Thanks,

    weiguo

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    *From:*BESS [[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>]
    on behalf of Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)
    [[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>]
    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 0:01
    *To:* Haoweiguo; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Cc:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [bess] One question about
    'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

    Weiguo,

    There are already implementations using value 10 in the RFC5512
    BGP encap ext community.

    That is the value you would have in RFC7432 compliant networks
    where you can also have overlay tunnels. Value 10 would indicate
    to the ingress PE that the route needs an MPLS tunnel to be resolved.

    Thx

    Jorge

    *From: *BESS <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Haoweiguo
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Date: *Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 1:05 AM
    *To: *"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>,
    "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Cc: *"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Subject: *[bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

        Hi Ali & John,

        The draft of 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02' describes how
        EVPN can be used for Overlay network, the overlay network
        includes VXLAN, NVGRE and MPLS Over GRE.

        In section 13 IANA considerations, several overlay tunnel
        types are requested as follows:

        8 VXLAN Encapsulation
        9    NVGRE Encapsulation
        10   MPLS Encapsulation   (?)
        11   MPLS in GRE Encapsulation
        12   VXLAN GPE Encapsulation

        IMO, 8,9,11 and 12 are all overlay encapsulations, 10 is an
        exception. Would you like to explain what's the purpose of
        tunnel type 10?

        Thanks,

        weiguo



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