JupiterHost.Net,

"Tell you mom I said hi, she appreciates me"

Is this word said by you? I think you are very rude,not only to Grant,but to 
all the people on this list.
This kind beginners list has been smirched by your words.

-----Original Message-----
>From: "JupiterHost.Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jan 20, 2006 9:31 AM
>To: Grant Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, beginners@perl.org
>Subject: Re: CLOSED Re: Obtaining complete Unix command line that      evoked 
>script as string
>
>
>
>Grant Jacobs wrote:
>> 
>> Forced to make time to get off this list as the volume is too much for 
>> the megre limit my ISP sets.
>> 
>> Thanks again for those that helped; my working solution seems OK for now.
>> 
>> Below is a reply to anonymous ("JupiterHost.Net"), anyone else is 
>> welcome to ignore it.
>> 
>> 
>>> Writing a new shell is quick and cheap?
>> 
>> 
>> Perhaps you missed the solution I posted, it was a rather long post. It 
>> uses a single line of shell code and a small, simple, perl module, a far 
>> cry from a new shell ;-)
>> 
>> I've snipped most of your remarks as either you've missed my solution or 
>> you can't see that the assumptions you're making don't fit my situation. 
>> Important point is that I'm not not taking your advice because I've got 
>> an attitude or I think your "wrong", I'm not taking it because it 
>> doesn't fit my particular purpose. To repeat from my earlier post: I 
>> don't have a choice about using a mixture of shell and perl, its not 
>> something I can choose, even if I wanted to.
>> 
>> 
>>> I'd tone down the attitude of people trying to make your life easier :)
>> 
>> 
>> I know you've accidentally left out some words, but perhaps its also 
>> your subconcious giving you some advice? ;-)  For your sake I'll do the 
>> decent thing and *not* take your advice! :-)  (Which I'm sure you'll be 
>> happy about.)
>> 
>> 
>>>  a) you simply cannot get the entire command without making a custom 
>>> shell
>> 
>> 
>> Erm, 'history 1' seems to... what's missing?  Its available in at least 
>> bash and tcsh, which is all I need to worry about for now. I don't mind 
>> if some obscure shells aren't supported. I'll check zsh sometime later, 
>> its important for my immediate use. 'sh' isn't relevant for me, FWIW, 
>> given tcsh and bash are common.
>> 
>> (I know I also have to record the environment variables, but that's not 
>> hard in my case.)
>> 
>> 
>>> you can lead a horse to water but you can't push him in :)
>> 
>> 
>> Sure, I agree. I'm happy to take anyone's advice and I do. But if the 
>> advice doesn't fit, the most sensible thing is not take it, right? 
>> There's nothing personal about that, so this sort of reply is a bit 
>> silly in that context.
>> 
>> But just for fun, by analogy, your quote makes an assumption; it assumes 
>> the water isn't filthy, polluted and off-putting to the horse in which 
>> case you probably couldn't even lead a *sensible* horse to it :-)  A 
>> smart horse might choose to be stubborn because it can see it doesn't 
>> make sense..
>
>Cute, you're an idiot (sorry traffic was bad and I've still got some 
>road rage).
>
>I know I said no more replies from me but I don't want silence to be 
>assumed that you made any sort of valid point.
>
>*You* are the one who missed the point, and still are:
>
>There are easier, better, more portable, (IE pronounced "with Perl or 
>*any* other language or system") etc etc ways to get the data you want 
>regardless of the project.
>You just may need to rethink how you go about it.
>
>The insults all started when you kept saying no one here understood what 
>you where saying, when they in fact did but where giving an answer you 
>still don't seem to comprehend and now I'm ending them with this message.
>
>In other words a rube goldberg machine will work, and it can be fun to 
>fiddle with, but there are more practical ways to do it in general, but 
>still a rube goldberg isn't bad mind you just not as efficient or easy 
>to take around with you.
>
>I'm very sorry I wasted time trying to help, and hope the best on your 
>project. and with that I'll make you deal:
>
>I'll shut up if you do, agreed?
>
>This is absolutley the last reply I'll make to this thread regardless of 
>how stubbornly clueless and unreasonable the reply is.
>
>Tell you mom I said hi, she appreciates me :) (ok that was juvenial but 
>fun ;p)
>
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