> > Sure...if I know someone can do the job. I'll just go to rentacoder.com > > I'd be more than happy to consult for your Perl needs, send me an email > off list if you're interested. > > >>If not, "steal it from the market" might be more apt. > > > > > > So you don't take examples you find off the net? Is this not stealing? > > Whatever... > > Ok time for everyone to calm down and be happy :)
I have to second that -- while I respect Gunnar's point of view, and his skill - sometimes his bedside manner is suboptimum. Perhaps instead of taking every opportunity to castigate someone for malusing the list, we can be a little more politic -- ask more questions. > > I think by "stealing" he means "expect someone to code for free" without > even trying to do it yourself first. > > Regardless, the point is this is a beginners list, but there needs to be > more effort because its not a free script writing service. > > Now back to your question: > > 1) use strict; and use warnings; always always always! that will tell > you about problems before you even know about them and solve 90% of your > troubles I can't even TYPE "#!/usr/bin/perl" without my fingers starting to type "use strict; use warnings; " -- There was a time in my life when I did not avail myself of strictures and warnings, and I wonder how I ever got any code written. I was over reading through perl.advocacy about the hubris/humility ratio in these lists, and I think maybe a tall cold one is what we all need. As to Flash's original questions -- sometimes a beginner is just #!%ing clueless where to start. They don't have a copy of the camel book, and are too poor (or cheap) to get it, or they're stuck in the desert without broadband, or a million possible reasons ... Pointing someone to the perlre documentation will certainly tell them a TON of information, but a lot of that is great *reference* material, without being good commentary (and to it's credit, the pod pages are *much* better at commentary than something like early BSD man pages). To Gunnar's credit: It *does* appear like Flash (who gets minus karma points from the getgo in my book for not even having a NAME) really wants The List to just write his programs for him. I think you (Flash) would get a lot more leeway if you at least gave people the impression that you're TRYING to absorb the documentation ... Somehwere, floating around in senmail hell (my mailserver was down for most of the afternoon :( ) is my commentary response to his question. Maybe it will get flushed out of the pipes. So, in the spirit of Holiday Blessings and Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Man that is tradition between November and January, when we can get back to our regularly scheduled program of hatred and global domination, let's declare it Be Kind To Clueless Newbies Week at beginners :) Ask me how I feel about this post in six months, after I've been here a while, and I've seen the same asinine question float past my mailbox 30,661 times... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://learn.perl.org/> <http://learn.perl.org/first-response>