I could see this thread coming 2 months ago. Does anyone have any pent-up
frustrations?
:-)

I think this list is the BEST list I have ever read ... not that I have read
many lists. However, any list can be improved. The improvements I would
suggest have to do with editorializing and patience:

First, editorializing--definition here
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=editorialize. If
you find yourself making comments about code--after all, it's all about the
code--that is the purpose of this list. This is and should be supported ad
infinitum and ad nauseum. On the other hand, if you find yourself making
comments about the poster in general, I think it is a sign of trouble. Who
is it for me to say that what one programmer tried in a day is not equal to
what a lesser programmer tried in a week?

Charles Clarkson, Randall Schwartz, and John Krahn (I'm only naming three.
Apologies to those I omitted. Whatever happened to Drieux?) are some of the
most respected lurkers in this forum. I try to read their posts whenever I
can. I am sure that a day of their effort would go a long way. But so what?
Not many can compare their abilities to the "highly seasoned."

There are much differing abilities of all those that post to this forum. I
recently rewrote something I first wrote in Perl when I was just starting
out. The code went from 100 lines to only 20.

What I am trying to say is if you find yourself getting ready to post
something that is not talking explicitly about code, chances are it is
better left unsaid (unwritten). I think we should stick to: what did you
try; can I see your code; this is where your problem is; an alternate
solution is.... These are just my opinions. Yours might vary.

Second, patience. We should all be more patient. Keep in mind that this is a
global group. This forum is in English but English is not the native
language of many here. Many translate directly from their native tongue into
English. Sometimes desired nuances are lost or undesired ones gained. It can
be taken differently and offensively by some.

There have been many posts I have read here that have rubbed me the wrong
way. What did I do? I immediately moved on to the next post or thread.
Otherwise, you spend time editorializing. That's bad.

Everyone here is subject to criticism including me. If you don't like that,
then please do not post anything here. You are still free to read. When in
doubt, discretion is the better part of valor.

Just my 2 cents. I hope I didn't offend any as that was not my intent. Now
let's get back to business. Well, actually this is pleasure for me.

Thanks,
ZO

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message...
> I agree, Gunnar is mean.  Mean people suck!
>
> derek



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