Hi all,

>learning about basics like scalar variables and
> arrays etc. 
> first is a little daunting.  With the Bioinfo. book I was writing
> programs (well, 
If u are a novice to programming, well it might be a bit difficult initially - i agree.
> doing the exercises) straight away.  Kinda like when I learnt French 
> (pretentious? Moi?), I was speaking phrases and communicating before 
> worrying about grammer - the grammer comes naturally the more you get
> into 
> the language.

well i 'd like to say that learning natural language (write/speak) is different from 
learning a programming language. in a natural language u get to the tune of the accent 
also along with grammar where as here it doesnt have any.  well, we cant say "i speak 
in Perl language" ;-P.

i have also noticed people who only start with those 'Perl for Bioinfo' books get 
stuck when they need to do something beyond what is taught in the book.coz learning a 
language at the first place increases the scope of applicativity which u might miss 
otherwise. i have learnt Perl language first then applying it for bioinfo.

> But I take your point and some people (most?) would find your
> suggestion 
> helpful.

well its up to u/them :-) Its just a suggestion.
> Harvey

regards,
KM

> >Hi all,
> >
> >sorry i think its the otherway around. first one should know the
> technical basics 
> of Perl language then dive into books like 'Beginning Perl for
> Bioinformatics'. As 
> far as i have seen people who have learnt Perl language initially and
> then read 
> books like those fared far better than people who took those books
> without 
> knowing what Perl language is.
> >
> >regards,
> >KM
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------
> >On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 12:08:21PM -0000, Harvey Kelly wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> If you've no experience whatsoever, then Beginning Perl for
> >> Bioinformatics is 
> >> very helpful - then move on to Learning Perl I guess.  It assumes
> no
> >> prior 
> >> knowledge, and although its focus is on Biology, it's all just data
> >> isn't it?
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> 
> >> Harvey
> >>  
> >> -------------------
> >> >On 2/4/2004 10:17 PM, wolf blaum wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi, 
> >> >> I like:
> >> >> 
> >> >> Learning Perl by Randal Schwartz & Tom Phoenix as a good
> >> introduction 
> >> with 
> >> >> tons of further references
> >> >> 
> >> >> Programing Perl by Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen and Jon Orwant
> as
> >> the 
> >> ultimate 
> >> >> refernce and pillow
> >> >> 
> >> >> Mastering Perl/Tk by Steve Lidie and Nancy Walsh for times when
> I
> >> dont 
> >> have 
> >> >> access to this mailing list and zentaras hints
> >> >> 
> >> >> The Perl Cookbook by Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington for
> >> when I 
> >> was to 
> >> >> lasy to think for myself (or wanted to get depressed by how much
> >> better one 
> >> >> could solve the problem Ive been working on in hunderts of
> lines)
> >> >> 
> >> >> And even though I never read it in the linear way: Mastering
> >> regular 
> >> >> expressions by Jeffrey Friedl 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Not to forget: perldoc perltoc or www.perldoc.com
> >> >> 
> >> >> and The Hitchhickers Guide to the Galaxy and Last Chance to see
> by 
> >> Douglas 
> >> >> Adams. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> I guess others would recomend The Lord of the rings too.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Good night:-)
> >> >> Wolf
> >> >
> >> >Since there was no mention what kind of perl books (beginner,
> etc.):
> >> >
> >> >I'd add: "Object Oriented Perl" by Damian Conway, I've also been
> >> wanting 
> >> >to check out "Learning Perl Objects, References, & Modules" by
> >> Randall 
> >> >Schwartz. "Advanced Perl Programming" by Sriram Srinivasan
> (getting 
> >> >slightly out of date; seems I heard of updated edition coming
> ???). 
> >> >"Effective Perl Programming" by Joseph Hall is not bad. "Writing
> Perl
> >> 
> >> >Modules for CPAN" by Sam Tregar is pretty good if your going to
> write
> >> 
> >> >modules for CPAN. "Extending & Embedding Perl" by Tim Jenness & 
> Simon
> >> 
> >> >Cozens is good if your going to get into Perl/XS.
> >> >
> >> >You'll definately want the Perl Cookbook mentioned above. It's the
> >> Perl 
> >> >equivelant of the Effective C++ books.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Randy.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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