"John W. Krahn" wrote: > "Thread"? Since your MUA doesn't provide a "References:" header it is > not part of any "thread". Also your MUA seems to have elided any > attribution to the text I typed above.
Well, I'll be darned. I wondered why so many messages ended up in the wrong place in the thread, and now I see. My mail client, Netscape Mesenger 4.79 [I use NS 7.02 for browsing, but will not tolerate Instant Messaging or AOL files on my machine, and there is no option for mail without IM in recent Netscapes], does idiot threading when it sees no reference header. That is, it looks for a base subject for any message whose Subject =~ /^re: /i This has some rather bizarre side effects, such as fresh messages being plopped in months-dead threads. It also consistently puts Dan's replies, and many others, I believe in the first tier of responses on any thread. Dan, please look into other mailers. I won't recommend mine, for the reason[s] cited above, but there must be mailers that thread and handle threads appropriately. John's message does present appropriately as a reply to your message, because your message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is referenced in his reply: References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This Message-ID/References linkage is the fabric that holds mailing list traffic together. Joseph FWIW: Attached is a count of occurences of header items in traffic in my Perl Beginners mailbox from December 8 of last year until that mailbox crashed [temporarily] on August 19.
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