Actually, it "Could be" great reading to "Sleep by". But I have a concern about all of this, be that a MS "Controlled" .NET or even an "OPEN source" Mono. Who is going to "control" where all of this resides? Let's take the MS idea of .NET for a moment, remember WHEN the Justice dept tried to "Go after" MS because they had too much control of things? Regardless of my personal opinions on this (Bill who?) doesn't this whole idea give Mr. Gates more of the opportunity that IF anyone tries "That" again, the HE could "Pull the plug" and everyone who is using .NET now can't make their programs run? Isn't that a REAL possibility? Or let's look at it from the OPEN Source side, if ALL of this "common code" (For lack of a better word right now) was at one or a "Handful" of sites, and let's just say there was a "Power outage" (Remember the great power outage of 2003?), then what? The rest of us are still working, but WE can't access the needed files to make our Internet or Intranet sites work, so now we start having a cascade failure of the NET (No DOT here, everyone). From a company perspective, the concept of .NET is wonderful, as long as "Our source code" is just that, "OURS". But from the poor guy who suddenly NOW has to pay MS (Back to .NET again) a monthly fee just to OPEN a Word Doc, I don't see the public going for that. Do I have this wrong? Don't tell me Mr. Gates is going to keep the basic modules for MS-Word free for everyone?? Yea right. I'm just concerned, that's all, I love the idea of "Every developer" getting his "Fair share" for the bits & pieces he creates, and YES, we are NOT reusing our code enough, but is THIS the correct solution??
Anyone got anymore links for me? I noticed that when I did that search on the "de icaza .net" (without the quotes, duh?) that the TOP article was on O'Reilly, I like their books, don't get me wrong, but will they publish someone else's "Point of view", even though de Icaza seems like a "Sharp cookie" and admittedly, this is this first time I've heard of him. I'd like to hear what others have to say. I've been developing Perl based web sites for a long time, what I've always liked about it was/is the fact that it actually works and it's included with the O/S's like Linux (Ok, use the word - FREE) and I just feel that if Bill gets His way, that we'll all loose out on the word FREE. Now if this idea was like a "Newsgroup" where the various news servers got reloaded from time to time and the code wasn't just in ONE spot, I might be willing to really support it, but the more I learn about this, the more questions I have. Somebody HELP me understand why this is the NEXT thing in software. I just don't get it.
Thanks.
McMahon, Christopher x66156 wrote:
I'll take this a step further. Search Google for "de icaza .net".
Miguel de Icaza produced the GNOME desktop and founded Ximian/Mono. He's
quoted all over the place discussing what .NET has to offer beyond the MS
arena, for Open Source and wide interoperability. I think that de Icaza
explains .NET better than Microsoft has... at least from a developer's point
of view. ActiveState has a Perl environment "Visual Perl" that seems to be
capable of interacting in a .NET sort of way with other .NET languages,
which is pretty cool. .NET is worth investigating if for no other reason than that it
seems to be the MS answer to Sun's Java *and* IBM's WebSphere. And it has
a lot of room to grow. I'm interested because I just got a job with an all-Windows shop
migrating apps from C++ to .NET. Except for Windows workstations and a
little bit of MS ODBC, all my professional experience has been on Tandem,
Solaris, and AIX. I hope .NET is as cool as de Icaza says it is, because
Windows kinda creeps me out. It's just very weird having all of that
abstraction/secret code between me and what the OS is doing. -Chris
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------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:40:02 -0700, Rich Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I've been involved with Perl for many years (too many to count right now). One question has been bugging me lately, and maybe it's because I don't know enough about it, or maybe it's because I've been "Not the biggest fan" of Mr. Bill and his org... Either way, I'm attempting to learn about .NET (Don't panic here, I'm just looking for some
information).
Mainly, how does, or can the .NET framework be of benefit to the Perl developer at large? Am I going to get any "Bang for my buck" using Perl in the .NET environment? But WAIT, I'm working on Linux Systems, how does that effect what I am asking?? If someone could provide me a link to some articles about .NET from many different perspectives, preferably NOT by MS (If you catch my drift here). I want to see if this framework is going to be something of use to me.
Thanks for ANY help you can provide.
You may want to check out the MONO project:
http://go-mono.org/
http://danconia.org
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