On Friday, May 24, 2002, at 03:33 , Egor Brandt wrote:

> but I wanna know everybody's password... I can't do without decrypting 
> them, can I, or are they gonna tell me when I simply ask?

Depending upon the authentication 'service' there are a
variety of ways you can hack them. Few of them use more
than a 128bit encryption algorithm to begin with....

so why do you need to "know everybody's password"????

Most of the professional SysAdd's I know would prefer
NOT to know them - nor to cache them - and would prefer
merely to reset them when they can authenticate that
the user is the person that they say they are.

Part of the annoyance of the 'webGames' out there is
that they want me to offer up a passwd to play on
their site - and this means that in the lower risk
categories re-using very old passwd generating algorithms.

The really dopey part is that they are willing to send
me back my 'passwd' - in plain text, by email.... yeah
like as if that is gonna pass an Orange Book...

A part of the problem we have with 'identity theft'
issues is that YES most people ARE that stoopid, and
will hand over the information without thinking about
it, never mind that under american law your SSN can
only be used for Tax Identification Purposes - and
if the person asking, can not validate that there
is a 'tax' related issue....

ciao
drieux

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