Bingo! I agree and I think that's my problem with all of this. I think that the 
documentation pages can be over a newbie's (myself) head. For example, the Win32 
extensions are great and I'm really getting into them but I have problems sometimes 
getting them to run in my codes. Good advice, also, about the books. Personally, I'm 
on NT and am moving to Unix or Linux later (after I learn C and Assembly), so I'm 
using the Learning Perl on Win32. Then I'm going to use the Camel book. Any advice on 
getting the most out of the 2 Learning Perl books? (or shall I repost this question, 
i.e., a new thread?) Thanks! 

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                From:   drieux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                Sent:   Monday, April 29, 2002 3:27 PM
                To:     Chas Owens
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                Subject:        B/C - Re: Selftuition


                On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 11:47 , Chas Owens wrote:
                [..]
                >> I hear "Learning Perl" is the best bet for a structured set of
                >> exercises building in a graduated manner from simple to difficult.
                >> - --
                >> beau
                [..]
                > The best advice I can give is read the 3rd Llama (Learning Perl 3rd
                > edition) cover to cover, read about references and closures in the 
3rd
                > Camel (Programming Perl 3rd edition), and finally choose a pet 
project
                > to work on (mine was a Gtk/Gnome SQL editor) reading the 3rd Camel,
                > perldoc, and Module docs as necessary.

                Someone has my llama book - and I presume it works for them.

                The hard trick is teaching folks how to hunt for new information,
                and evaluate for themselves that it is really worth retaining,
                which is the critical problem here....

                As one of my old coder friends reminds me from time to time

                "I am a user. The Australian DoD did teach me to code in cOBOL wat 
back in 
                1975. At that stage I started to wish for the elegant simplicity of an 
IBM 
                Sorter/Collator complete with the necessary patch cords.
                [..]
                Where have all the old and reliable things they told me about like 
ALGOL, 
                FORTRAN, FORTH and suchlike gone. I do remember using some odd job 
control 
                languages too but that's another story. Pardon me is I duck."

                Many of our current players were not even BORN in '75 - which is
                clearly frightening to think about... So we just do not have any
                stable body of knowledge upon which to argue the cases with any
                sense of 'scientific certainty'.....




                ciao
                drieux

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