Even more pro tips: 

* Let the list moderator (ahem, that would be me) deal with policing the 
behavior of the list participants.  

* Realize that this list is publicly archived and indexed by search engines. 
Realize that potential employers often Google applicants. Realize your behavior 
here, as such, is "in public" and reflects on you for better or worse. 

* Seriously, LET THE LIST MODERATOR DEAL WITH POLICING BEHAVIOR. If you feel 
like you *absolutely* *must* *say* _SOMETHING_ -- say it directly to me. If it 
just can't wait for email, I'm on IRC on freenode and irc.perl; /msg genehack 
and I'll respond. Otherwise, if you find yourself responding, on-list, in a 
confrontational way, STOP. Just don't send that email. Please. 

* The whole thing with calling out other peoples responses is getting really 
old. If you think somebody gave a bad or uninformative response, the best way 
to deal with that is to write a better one, and explain why it's better, 
ideally without specifically referring to the other person's post. 

* Remember that we're here to help Perl beginners. We're not here to snipe at 
each others answers. That doesn't help beginners.  


Thanks to all the beginners asking questions, and all the people providing 
answers (and sorry for not being one of those people more often). You are all 
appreciated.

thanks,
john.


-- 
John SJ Anderson / geneh...@genehack.org 


On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Jack Maney wrote:

> ProTip: If you're going to ask for help, don't insult and dismiss out of hand 
> the findings of those who take the time to help you.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Krahn [mailto:jwkr...@shaw.ca] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 2:18 AM
> To: Perl Beginners
> Subject: Re: subroutine returning data
> 
> Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:19:27 -0700
> > "John W. Krahn"<jwkr...@shaw.ca (mailto:jwkr...@shaw.ca)> wrote:
> > 
> > > Chris Stinemetz wrote:
> > > > I have a subroutine that I want to "return 1" only if the value of
> > > > %{$href->{$_[0]}} is equal to 'ND' for the whole 24 occurences.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > One way to do it:
> > > 
> > > sub site_offAir {
> > > return values %{ $href->{ $_[ 0 ] } } == grep( $_ eq 'ND', values
> > > %{ $href->{ $_[ 0 ] } } ) ? 1 : '';
> > > }
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I see several problems with your code:
> 
> You are entitled to your opinion.
> 
> > 1. It's quite hard to understand the logic of it.
> 
> No it isn't. (IMHO)
> 
> > 2. It won't stop when it encounter the first "ND" value.
> 
> That is true. And your point?
> 
> > 3. You have the values % { $href->{ $_[0] } } gob twice (a duplicate
> > expression).
> 
> 
> 
> Yes. And...
> 
> > 4. You've used $_[0] which is a positional parameter,
> 
> So?
> 
> > see:
> > http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/bad-elements/#subroutine-arguments
> 
> 
> 
> Your argument on your web page does not appear to apply to this situation.
> 
> > 5. The grep does not uses braces for its predicate/block which is harder to
> > read.
> 
> 
> 
> In your opinion. I prefer to not use braces unless I have to.
> 
> > 6. You will return a true value (a list of length 1) when the function is
> > called in list context.
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, just as the OP's code.
> 
> 
> 
> John
> -- 
> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and
> more complex... It takes a touch of genius -
> and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
> direction. -- Albert Einstein
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