On 19/04/2011 15:27, shawn wilson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Rob Dixon<rob.di...@gmx.com> wrote:
On 19/04/2011 12:56, Jenda Krynicky wrote:
Try Alcoholics Anonymous. This is not a post-traumatic mutual support
group, this is a technical mailing list! If you can't handle a terse
and to the point reply, you should change the profession and try to
find nicer talking people in the humanities. The catch is that the
emails will start with a greeting, continue with a compliment, use
soft words ... and be empty, empty, empty.
You could have said that it is not a good thing, while being
polite and much less hostile and angry. As it is, you are
scaring many people from this list.
As it is, those people should not be doing anything technical in the
first place. The compiler will not start with a greeting and
compliment their hairstyle either.
You really believe that conveying technical knowledge requires rudeness,
sarcasm, and snide remarks? Too many people here seem to think that the
extent of their Perl knowledge entitles them to fits of bad manners and
lazy language. If you struggle to make positive comments as well as
negative ones then perhaps you should stick to writing Perl instead of
trying to teach it.
well, it is our culture. some fields have a culture of inclusion,
technology generally has a culture of exclusion. Uri and Jenda's
remarks show pretty good examples if this elite attitude. not saying
that it's right or that cultures can't change, just saying what i've
experienced (and sometimes dealt out).
I'm afraid you're right Shawn. Randal also is famous for his nastiness
(although he seems to have calmed down a lot in his latter posts) and it
seems that those who can best afford to be magnanimous have the meanest
of spirits. I have written acerbic pieces myself, but it has always been
at times when I was unwell, worried or upset. I always regretted it
afterwards. Offensive language is a forgiveable mistake, and worse than
bad spelling or grammar. But when I see it defended as inevitable or
even beneficial I begin to wonder how people can get so lost.
Offering someone advice with a side helping of a slap in the face always
degrades the experience of all parties. It may be excuseable, but never
more than that.
than again, maybe that's why we get paid so well; not really because
of being able to do things that no one else can do but because we
deal with and serve up bull shit so well - that might be our biggest
honed skill.
Now you're getting cynical. Companies have salesmen to abuse people if
need be - no need for us engineers to get involved!
Rob
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