On Tuesday 19 Apr 2011 18:00:05 Peter Scott wrote:
> I remember when Casey West and Kevin Meltzer started this list.  Casey
> was very specific on-line and in person about it being a place where
> newcomers could ask questions without being flamed.  The FAQ bears this
> 
> out:
> : 2.1 - What is the list for?
> : 
> :  A list for beginning Perl programmers to ask questions in a friendly
> :  atmosphere.
> 
> That is also the complete description of this group at http://
> lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html.
> 
> The FAQ goes on:
> : 2.3 - Are there any rules?
> : 
> : Yes. As with most communities, there are rules. Not many, and ones that
> : shouldn't need to be mentioned, but they are.
> : 
> :   * Be nice
> :   * No flaming
> :   * Have fun
> :
> :[...]
> :
> : * If you think what you are writing may be taken in a way you didn't
> : intend, please add a smiley :-) Many flame wars are stopped by a simple
> : smiley!
> : * No flames. If your fingers are burning as you are typing the email, it
> : 
> :  would likely be best not to send it.
> 
> If anything is clear from that FAQ it is that the intention is to avoid
> flames on this list.  Casey and Kevin appear to have stopped monitoring
> this group some time ago, though.
> 
> There is no shortage of lists, groups, or forums where people can get
> flamed for not following the rules, and people who want to flame them
> have an outlet for doing so.  I've already stopped reading most of them
> because it's not worth my time when most of the content is arguments
> about conduct.  I don't know whether communities inevitably fall into
> that mode after a while but this one at least had a good run and I'll be
> sorry if I end up leaving it too.
> 
> Andy Lester had a good article about this: http://perlbuzz.com/2010/11/
> think-for-perls-sake.html.  But judging from the responses it seems he
> and I may be in a minority.

Just for the record, here is the full and non-broken URL:

http://perlbuzz.com/2010/11/think-for-perls-sake.html

Other links of interest are my own (and related links):

* http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/perl-newcomers/

* http://shlomif-tech.livejournal.com/34831.html

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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