>>>>> "CO" == Chas Owens <chas.ow...@gmail.com> writes:
CO> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 00:21, Uri Guttman<u...@stemsystems.com> wrote: CO> snip >> i started with punch cards. print was all you had besides thorough and >> deep analysis of your code. that is a talent lost on too many coders >> today. and even today proper use of print is better than any debug >> tool. but it is still a skill to learn, where and what to print and how >> to analyze the results. i have seen many good coders not get that and >> they stick with debuggers. i find the simplicity of print and my total >> control of what gets printed, etc better than learning more commands, >> having to repeat a set of debug commands (yes, you can macro and preset >> them but that is still more work), etc. print is always there in any >> programs (and debuggers have issues with complex sets of processes, and >> daemons and such). CO> snip CO> I have seen the opposite: too many coders sticking with print instead CO> of picking up a debugger when the situation called for one. I tend to CO> debug with a combination of looking at the code, logs, and print CO> statements, but a good visual debugger can be a godsend. The biggest CO> problem with print statements is that you are modifying the code and CO> you might inadvertently change something or leave a debug statement in CO> the code. debugging with any technique is a skill to be learned and separate from actual programming. being able to analyze what the code is really doing vs what you expect it to be doing is the real skill. printing and using debuggers are all about getting the raw info for that analysis. as for modifying code or leaving prints around, you just develop handling those as part of the skill set. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ u...@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
