I have not read _Perl in 21 Days_ by Lemay, but her books tend to be
very well written.

On 04 Jun 2001 15:14:02 -0400, Anthony Beaman wrote:
> I saw on the FAQ that the "Perl 5 for NT in 21 Days" was recommended for
> learning Win32. Though not on the FAQ, is Lemay's "Per in 21 Days" book also
> worthwhile? I'm coming from a total non-programming background and was
> looking at these 2 books (along with the "Learning Perl for Win32" book) at
> the Library during lunch. I'm stopping back by on the way home and wonder
> what I should get. I work in a Windows environment but I'm branching out
> into Unix soon. Any ideas? Thanks! 
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From:   Mark Folse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent:   Monday, June 04, 2001 3:06 PM
>               To:     Perl Beginners List
>               Subject:        RE: A good book?
> 
>               I also backed into programming. I am the quintessential
> "Just Another
>               English Major Turned SysAdmin" sort. I also came in from
> DOSneyland and
>               not from UNIX.
> 
>               Still, I only undertook to learn Perl after some poking
> around to see
>               what language would allow me to best do the sort of
> automations I
>               wanted to do. Later, when I found myself deep into list
> processing to
>               condition bad customer data files, I was glad I chose Perl.
> 
>               Learning Perl may not teach you OOP, but that was not what a
> true
>               beginner comes to learn. I thought it excellent and
> occasionally
>               entertaining.  (I still chuckle when I think of the index
> entry for
>               RINDEX).
> 
>               In general, for someone of my sort, Learning Perl is clearly
> the way to
>               go. Having gotten through that, one should then rush out and
> acquire
>               Programming Perl, and read the first several chapters
> carefully.
> 
>               Someone approaching Perl with a much stronger programming
> background
>               might prefer to tackle Programming Perl or another book
> directly. I am
>               not sure, however, that an experiened C++ program is the
> intended
>               audience of this list.
> 
>               Then subscribe to this excellent list, and get down to work.
>               --- Chris Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>               > Chris> Personally, I think _Learning Perl_ is really
> showing its age.
>               > 
>               > I'm going to try to figure out how to say this without
> insulting a
>               > book that
>               > I *do* like and authors who are both Perl wizards and
> whose writing
>               > has
>               > given me a lot. Maybe dated isn't the right word, although
> the books
>               > style
>               > is, for lack of a better word, more "old fashioned." I can
> only speak
>               > to my
>               > own experience and that of those who I know, and I would
> say that
>               > half still
>               > feel that the _Learning Perl_ book is the best book out
> there, while
>               > the
>               > other half found other volumes more effective.
>               > 
>               > I've recommended LP in the past many times, and there are
> certain
>               > people to
>               > whom I still make that recommendation. In fact, that might
> be part of
>               > it...
>               > those who are already programmers in another language seem
> to really
>               > profit
>               > from LP.
>               > 
>               > For me (who came into computers ass-backwards carrying
> degrees in
>               > philosophy
>               > and writing poetry), it just didn't WORK that well. There
> seemed to
>               > be
>               > little things assumed about the language and terminology
> assumed
>               > about the
>               > reader that I wasn't grokking. I'll grant that it has been
> a few
>               > years since
>               > I used the book (I was using a Second Edition though), nor
> can I
>               > recall
>               > specifics since it has been a few years and I have since
> learned to
>               > grasp at
>               > least a FEW more concepts.
>               > 
>               > For what it is--a book that is meant to accompany or
> represent a
>               > particular
>               > class of a particular length in hours-- LP is great. For
> programmers
>               > in
>               > other languages, or who even have experience in any other
> language,
>               > it is
>               > probably great. For me, with very little experience of any
> kind, it
>               > didn't
>               > work out so well. As a single starting tome for beginners,
> I feel
>               > that the
>               > expanded coverage of using modules, OO, CGI, and the
> generally more
>               > lengthy
>               > and in-depth explanations of most concepts in the
> _Beginning Perl_
>               > book are
>               > more fruitful. That might just be a quality of having more
> room to
>               > explain
>               > concepts (or to luxuriate in explanations and handholding
> and
>               > diagrams that
>               > others might not need, some would say). Yes, it would take
> more time
>               > to
>               > cover that book, but my answer wasn't about what book
> would fit in a
>               > limited
>               > number of hours best, but in a series of books that we
> would
>               > recommend.
>               > 
>               > > I pondered this question VERY carefully when redesigning
> the llama
>               > > course over the past few years, which has become the
> llama3 book
>               > soon
>               > > hitting the streets.  There's nothing dated about a book
> and course
>               > > that are updated every two months or so.
>               > 
>               > I look forward to seeing this revision. The second edition
> came out
>               > in 97,
>               > right?
>               > 
>               > c
> 
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